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Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
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*****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:54 PM   #1906
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Clyde is fine. He finds daylight well but the interior OL is not good. Not on him.
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:56 PM   #1907
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Tony Gonzalez said that CEH is not a 3 down back and that he is more like Sproles, is he right?
CEH has come out on a ton of third downs, so yes. That’s somewhat correct at this point.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:00 PM   #1908
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CEH has come out on a ton of third downs, so yes. That’s somewhat correct at this point.
No, it’s really not.

TG is saying that CEH isn’t a 1st/2nd down RB. He is. He’s coming out on 3rd down because his pass blocking isn’t up to par yet.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:02 PM   #1909
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Clyde is fine. He finds daylight well but the interior OL is not good. Not on him.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:08 PM   #1910
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I always felt like having 2 legit backs was important that way no one is worn completely down by January. Damien Williams’ freshness has played a critical role in the last two playoff runs.

My guess is Clyde really blows up like Damien does in those games.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:26 PM   #1911
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If you could do the draft again, do you take Swift or Taylor or do you think CEH will be the best back?
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:29 PM   #1912
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CEH 1Rb Bell 2RB and really I think Darrel Williams is the perfect 3rd RB he wont get many carries but is powerful enough to come in get you that yard you need
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:32 PM   #1913
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If you could do the draft again, do you take Swift or Taylor or do you think CEH will be the best back?
I'd still take CEH. His upside is there to see, especially in the Chiefs offense. IF we were a run-centric team I might choose differently.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:53 PM   #1914
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If you could do the draft again, do you take Swift or Taylor or do you think CEH will be the best back?
No way do you take Taylor. The dude's wheels could fall off at any time.

He had 1000 touches in college.

Wisconsin RB's have their issues at the next level. Taylor had more carries in college than all of them.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:55 PM   #1915
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If you could do the draft again, do you take Swift or Taylor or do you think CEH will be the best back?
I liked Swift more than CEH, but I also thought CEH was easily the best fit for this offense in the draft and said as much on here before draft day. Since Reid/Veach took him, I’m going to trust their decision for now.

As for Taylor, he simply isn’t a fit.
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:14 PM   #1916
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I really like the CEH signing. I think it shows faith in our organization but, he is a rookie and it is not going to happen over night. The Bell signing shows the need for a veteran presence. If Bell is 100% into this then the rookie can learn from a seasoned vet. It is a matter of time and fingers crossed.
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:25 PM   #1917
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Jury is still out on Clyde...he really hasn't matched his stellar debut performance. He's been serviceable...with some good moments.

IMO, he should be getting more 4-6 yard gains against 3 and 4 man fronts. He didn't get a preseason and is a rookie...so we'll see.

Bell is regarded as one the best pass catching RBs in NFL history...you dont lose that ability in one year. His vision is elite...

The current trend in defensing KC...is to drop everyone into coverage. This is happening due to CEH's ineffectiveness. Teams are daring the Chiefs to run on them...Bell, in theory, is the perfect antidote vs. 3 and 4 man fronts.

If he is even 75% of what he was with the Steelers...KC will be unstoppable.

It looked like they were going to be after the Texans game...disappointed it appeared to be an anomoly...for now.

Bell should be RB1...and Clyde RB2. Le'Veon is multi-year all pro player. Watch and learn...like Mahomes in year one.
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:40 PM   #1918
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Still waiting for CEH to get involved in the passing game. If Bell is there pass protecting I think you'll see it a lot more. At least I hope
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Maybe it's just me, but as I watch highlights of kareem hunt, CEH, and bell something interesting popped out at me. I don't know if it's just in the highlights or if there's something there.

CEHs first instinct seems to be to immediately attack the middle. Kareem and leveon seem to like attacking the edges. I was actually surprised as I would have thought of kareem as more of a north south runner. Is CEH basically running into the teeth of our biggest weakness? Should he be running outside more or is he just better suited for inside running?
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I liked Swift more than CEH, but I also thought CEH was easily the best fit for this offense in the draft and said as much on here before draft day. Since Reid/Veach took him, I’m going to trust their decision for now.

As for Taylor, he simply isn’t a fit.
I agree that CEH was the best RB for our offense, but as I was watching highlights today, I had a thought that maybe if we had drafted a bigger, faster running back, that didn't necessarily fit our offense, our offense would actually be better than it is now.

Maybe if we had a bigger back that could power through the weak holes that our O-line only seems capable of creating, and who could run over the second level of the defense, then those defenses couldn't afford to drop back 7-8 people into coverage.

I feel like CEH has not lived up to the expectations, especially after his week one performance, and it's really not his fault, as the O-line and play calling hasn't really allowed him big opportunities for success. But, I believe he will improve, and eventually our O-line will get better as well. But, right now, maybe a faster running back with a bigger body and more of a bruising style would be helping our offense more.

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