What do you do in the offseason if you are the Vikings?

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Sam Darnold has completely turned his career around in Minnesota. Yes, the Vikings have one of the best receiving corps and a good TE. But it's not like you could just plug in any QB and it will be great.

Sam Darnold signed a 1 year deal worth $10m is what google says. So he will be a free agent.

Should they use the franchise tag on him and try to trade him for a 1st? Or sign him to a contract and make him their starter since he played so well?

What to do with JJ McCarthy, if they go with Sam Darnold, since they drafted him so high? Sam Darnold wouldn't be in this position if it weren't for that injury.

It's a somewhat unusual situation and it's a Chiefs-less weekend so if you are the GM of the Vikings, what do you do?

[notorious]

If Darnold still has a locker this morning they are doing it wrong.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Their roster is so good that people have kinda forgotten that Jalen Hurts...isn't.

They've won enough games with him at QB that folks have decided he's an elite QB. But he really isn't. He's an expensive Purdy.

Shit, now that I think about it, Hurts may be the best comp for Nix.

He's...fine. He's not a problem but he's not a force multiplier.

Is it Barkley that says "he's the wagon not the horse"? I think it's Wright that says he's a thermometer not a furnace or something like that.

Essentially, if he looks good it's because his team is playing well. He's not the REASON his team is playing well, but rather a proxy for that good play around him.

Not enough discussion on how bad Jalen hurts has been. He has been brutally bad and you can see it in his WRs faces. And kinda like the vikes with their insane weapons, how you gonna struggle to put up 100 yards with aj brown, Devonta and goedert against teams begging you to throw the ball?

[notorious]

How did Hurts play the game of his life against us?

Good lord he had one of the best Superbowl games of all-time.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by notorious

If Darnold still has a locker this morning they are doing it wrong.

Eh I don’t get people throwing him under the bus. He isn’t some huge contract guy or some egomaniac. He’s a backup qb paid like a backup who went way beyond expectations. They should be grateful they had a mostly joyful season even though they were supposed to be miserable.

Darnolds only fault was that he gave the fans hope. He was too successful early on and it’s hard to fault somebody for that.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by notorious

How did Hurts play the game of his life against us?

Good lord he had one of the best Superbowl games of all-time.

I think it was the Joe Flacco effect where decent enough QBs can string together an insane playoff run every once in a while. He was definitely terrific against us.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

At least Purdy isn't going to get his shit pushed in by every single blitz you send at him.

I'm just floored by how poorly Darnold handled that the last 2 weeks. It was just spamming an easy button and he had no earthly idea what to do with it.

I haven't watched much Vikes. Did dudes just not blitz them? Was this a ****ing surprise? Because as bad as Darnold was - he was very bad - I didn't see a ton of TE leaks, RB in the flat, comebacks, the hot route shit.

I mean, the ones that were there he missed, so whatever, but I don't think O'Connell did a ton to help him.

Originally Posted by O.city

Mediocre is fine. Honestly, more teams should shoot for and be fine with that.

I can't believe Dallas didn't bring back McCarthy, a guy who has shown he can get the best out of Dak and win 12 games a year.

But, no. Lets shoot for "we've gotta win SB's this is unacceptable".

You don't have one of the top QB's who win SB's. You won't win.

I'm here for the jokes, and there will be a lot, so this is GREAT.

**** the Cowbtiches.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Not enough discussion on how bad Jalen hurts has been. He has been brutally bad and you can see it in his WRs faces. And kinda like the vikes with their insane weapons, how you gonna struggle to put up 100 yards with aj brown, Devonta and goedert against teams begging you to throw the ball?

Yeah, I don't get it. Dude hasn't thrown for 200 yards in over a month? I think I have that right, my God what are they doing?

And it's not like he can't, he had a great game in the Super Bowl against us.

There has to be an injury that Sirianni is hiding (like the ankle earlier in the year) or something. If not, it's time for a change at coach.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Their roster is so good that people have kinda forgotten that Jalen Hurts...isn't.

They've won enough games with him at QB that folks have decided he's an elite QB. But he really isn't. He's an expensive Purdy.

Shit, now that I think about it, Hurts may be the best comp for Nix.

He's...fine. He's not a problem but he's not a force multiplier.

Is it Barkley that says "he's the wagon not the horse"? I think it's Wright that says he's a thermometer not a furnace or something like that.

Essentially, if he looks good it's because his team is playing well. He's not the REASON his team is playing well, but rather a proxy for that good play around him.

Barkley likes the bus driver/passenger analogy.

[chiefzilla1501]

I just read that darnold was sacked 6 times in the first half and most were well beyond 3 seconds. First second and third, darnold played very shitty.

I’m a big fan of KOC and think he was handcuffed by a bad qb. I also don’t know that he did him any favors. In some ways it reminded me of the tyreek days where defenses bracketed him and we only had speed guys. Couple of critical short yardage plays last night where I seem to remember everyone being way downfield apart for maybe a tight end running underneath.

[Deberg_1990]

That the Vikings won 14 games is some kind of miracle.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I haven't watched much Vikes. Did dudes just not blitz them? Was this a ****ing surprise? Because as bad as Darnold was - he was very bad - I didn't see a ton of TE leaks, RB in the flat, comebacks, the hot route shit.

I mean, the ones that were there he missed, so whatever, but I don't think O'Connell did a ton to help him.

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

I'm sure I'll get shit on for it, but this is another reason I don't think Andy gets the praise he should.

Alot of these coaches are good coaches when things go their way or when they have a hot QB.

But they themselves making the QB play well? Nah, but I've seen Andy do it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm sure I'll get shit on for it, but this is another reason I don't think Andy gets the praise he should.

Alot of these coaches are good coaches when things go their way or when they have a hot QB.

But they themselves making the QB play well? Nah, but I've seen Andy do it.

I said it BEFORE he won his first SB -- Andy Reid was always a victim of his own success.

People wanted to kill him for not winning a SB with Donovan McNabb when in fact, the only reason people thought that scatter-armed mediocrity was a championship caliber QB was BECAUSE of Andy Reid.

I didn't need the SBs to know that Reid was one of the best coaches of all time. But I'm sure glad he got 'em.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Their roster is so good that people have kinda forgotten that Jalen Hurts...isn't.

They've won enough games with him at QB that folks have decided he's an elite QB. But he really isn't. He's an expensive Purdy.

Shit, now that I think about it, Hurts may be the best comp for Nix.

He's...fine. He's not a problem but he's not a force multiplier.

Is it Barkley that says "he's the wagon not the horse"? I think it's Wright that says he's a thermometer not a furnace or something like that.

Essentially, if he looks good it's because his team is playing well. He's not the REASON his team is playing well, but rather a proxy for that good play around him.

Hurts has pedestrian passing stats for his career, but it’s really hard to imagine a guy being in a better situation than he’s been.

A great duo of WRs. Always has talented running backs. Has had a really good Tight End. Great OL. At least pretty good defense.

Third and short has mostly been automatic for them as well.

Never thrown for 4,000 yards. Career high of 23 passing TDs.

If he ended up anywhere else, he might not be a starter right now.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Eh I don’t get people throwing him under the bus. He isn’t some huge contract guy or some egomaniac. He’s a backup qb paid like a backup who went way beyond expectations. They should be grateful they had a mostly joyful season even though they were supposed to be miserable.

Darnolds only fault was that he gave the fans hope. He was too successful early on and it’s hard to fault somebody for that.

If the Vikings want to move him to backup that's fine.

No way in the world should he be starting next year.

[smithandrew051]

An average Hurts season is roughly:

3,500 yards. 20 TDs. 8 picks.

Nothing special at all.