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Old 04-25-2024, 09:24 PM  
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Old Yesterday, 03:08 PM   #1861
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I think this is a bit harsh and extremely premature. He can easily develop into a DeSean Jackson type of player still.
Yeah it could be. If I'm honest I didn't see it in college the way others did, but I won't pretend I watched his every game or that I'm anything but terrible at evaluating players, especially WRs. But that probably explains my lower expectations.

It is very early, and way too early to claim to know what he'll be. Gun to my head I'd say I don't think he'll be that guy, but I'll be very happy to eat crow. In the meantime the speed is still an incredibly useful weapon
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Old Yesterday, 04:20 PM   #1862
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Here’s the replay. Just a bad mental error. He was falling back catching the ball too. Gotta know the sideline is there and stay in bounds. Should have been an easy TD

This is a rookie thing though. It’s mental and not ability. This is easy to fix
Damn that pass was LATE. Not sure what Pat was waiting for.
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Old Yesterday, 04:34 PM   #1863
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Damn that pass was LATE. Not sure what Pat was waiting for.
Looks like Worthy was the second read.

Seems like he’s looking at Hardman lined up tight 1-on-1 with a safety over the top. Not a bad look. Hardman will burn most safeties on a fly in that alignment. Probably what Mahomes was thinking too, but it takes Hardman forever and it finally becomes clear that he isn’t creating separation so he moves on to Worthy.
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Old Yesterday, 04:39 PM   #1864
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Looks like the Bucs were doing a lot of post-snap movements.

Pre-snap it looks like #32 will be on Worthy and #23 will be on Hardman. At the snap, #32 bails to the deep third, #23 runs over to the flat and #3 runs with Hardman upfield.

If Worthy was the first read there that one probably goes for a TD, but no way of knowing they’d change coverage like that.
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Old Yesterday, 04:44 PM   #1865
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Yeah, without knowing how the play is drawn up I’m going to go with my gut and say that is more on Worthy.

He squeezes the sideline way too much and too early for no apparent reason. They’ve got a high low coverage going on there and neither defender is even within 5 yards of him, no need to help them out by pressing the boundary until you absolutely have to.

He did seem to throttle it down a bit once he realized he’d found a hole in the zone so that’s good. He’s picking things up in real time.

And hopefully that lash footwork is an easy fix for him moving forward. I can live with that mistake in a mostly meaningless week 9 game. Much better to figure it out now than in January.
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Old Yesterday, 07:52 PM   #1866
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Worthy has had his fair share of subpar play the past few weeks but he's a rookie and I've seen nothing that looks like it can't be corrected.

Gotta throw some shade at Pat on this too. He needs to start letting it rip to this kid more often because throws are there to be made. Not only that, he was late with this throw by quite a bit. Pat with Tyreek was a different player than he is now. He needs to regain that killer instinct and just let it fly sometimes.
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Old Today, 02:31 AM   #1867
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Damn that pass was LATE. Not sure what Pat was waiting for.
Im not sure it was late. If Worthy stays in bounds and catches at the 2 yard line with momentum taking him into the end zone it would be a perfectly placed pass, giving the DBs no chance of either breaking up the pass or tackling Worthy short of the goal line
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Old Today, 08:57 AM   #1868
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Worthy worked the edge too much but a throw on time or a little deeper hits him in the hands, avoids the turn around a feet issues all together. I was saying all game that Pat needs to trust the play design and let more rip. Any time he got to the back of his drop and hesitated for more than a second he wasnt going to throw it with his chest. He had a different belief when throwing to Kelce and Dhop where he wasnt afraid to just rifle it to the spot at the back of the drop.
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Old Today, 09:39 AM   #1869
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Worthy worked the edge too much but a throw on time or a little deeper hits him in the hands, avoids the turn around a feet issues all together. I was saying all game that Pat needs to trust the play design and let more rip. Any time he got to the back of his drop and hesitated for more than a second he wasnt going to throw it with his chest. He had a different belief when throwing to Kelce and Dhop where he wasnt afraid to just rifle it to the spot at the back of the drop.
He has weird trust issues that he didn't have early on.

Like, for whatever reason, Mahomes would sling it to DRob on time every time. Always seemed weird cause like... why him? But Mahomes trusted his guys almost completely early on and rarely made a mistake even when he was going deep or throwing into tight windows.
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Old Today, 10:33 AM   #1870
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He has weird trust issues that he didn't have early on.

Like, for whatever reason, Mahomes would sling it to DRob on time every time. Always seemed weird cause like... why him? But Mahomes trusted his guys almost completely early on and rarely made a mistake even when he was going deep or throwing into tight windows.
I'm not sure if he just didn't know what he didn't know or the last two years have him Alex Smithing a little and over thinking it.
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Old Today, 10:52 AM   #1871
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I'm not sure if he just didn't know what he didn't know or the last two years have him Alex Smithing a little and over thinking it.
I think its the former. He even admitted as much that 2018 was a whirlwind and he didn't really know what he was doing.

Now that he's learned defenses, I think he's simply taking what's being given by the defense, but at the cost of trusting his guys and himself to make a crazy throw.

Now he has to "unlearn" some of what he's learned when reading defenses and just go with his gut and air it out more, finding a healthy balance between the smart and risky.

Idk, this is also the Xavier Worthy thread and I'm literally just a guy.
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Worthy is a **** hair from having 7 or 8 TDs. Sure that was his fault on Monday, but Pat has missed him quite a bit
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