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Old 04-25-2024, 09:24 PM  
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Old Today, 09:32 AM   #1606
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Toney has made over $13 million in his career and will make over $14 million after this year? Sometimes forget that he was a first rd pick.

Hell that’s probably why he’s so damn lazy. Dude already cashed out big time no matter what happens.
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Old Today, 09:37 AM   #1607
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Toney has made over $13 million in his career and will make over $14 million after this year? Sometimes forget that he was a first rd pick.

Hell that’s probably why he’s so damn lazy. Dude already cashed out big time no matter what happens.
Possibly. sad to see that on a team w hard working leaders like Mahomes and Kelce.

Hopefully he ****s off after this season if that's the case.
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Old Today, 10:01 AM   #1608
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Yeah - its rare to see someone so insanely gifted that he can not actually enjoy playing football and still be good at it at the highest level.

Someone like Ricky Williams comes immediately to mind. Honestly, I don't think Calvin Johnson really liked playing football.

But most of the time you get Kadarius Toney or Josh Rosen. If a dude enjoys being good at football more than he enjoys playing football, he's gonna eventually find a level where the guys are as talented as he is but will actually put the work in as well. And not because they have to (in which case you get the bare minimum) but because they genuinely enjoy it.

Toney's going to have to get humbled and it's starting to seem more and more likely that he simply lacks the self-awareness for that sort of thing to happen.

Guys like Toney actually think they have a rap career to fall back on. I'm being serious.
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Old Today, 10:04 AM   #1609
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Guys like Toney actually think they have a rap career to fall back on. I'm being serious.
Do they though? As long as he isn't blowing all his money, financially, he is probably set for life after football.

He probably just doesn't give a shit and just wants to do bare minimum to get paid.
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Old Today, 10:42 AM   #1610
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I think Toney is a perfect example of someone with a ton of athletic ability that simply doesn't love the game. Think he likes the paycheck, but isn't invested to put in the work on his craft.
He wants to be a rapper.
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Old Today, 10:44 AM   #1611
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He wants to be a rapper.
But he failed because he couldn't catch the beat.
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Yeah - its rare to see someone so insanely gifted that he can not actually enjoy playing football and still be good at it at the highest level.

Someone like Ricky Williams comes immediately to mind. Honestly, I don't think Calvin Johnson really liked playing football.

But most of the time you get Kadarius Toney or Josh Rosen. If a dude enjoys being good at football more than he enjoys playing football, he's gonna eventually find a level where the guys are as talented as he is but will actually put the work in as well. And not because they have to (in which case you get the bare minimum) but because they genuinely enjoy it.

Toney's going to have to get humbled and it's starting to seem more and more likely that he simply lacks the self-awareness for that sort of thing to happen.
I'd put a good bet on Toney constantly having injury issues is the lack of training especially when it comes to paying a reputable trainer. Granted some players are just injury prone regardless, but with Toney there's just little desire to put forth effort.
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Old Today, 12:03 PM   #1613
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I have a hard time believing he'll ever play another regular season snap.
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Man, Toney has been such a disappointment. I'm not sure I've been as excited for any Veach trade as I was for him. It just seemed an amazing opportunity to maximise a rare talent. The SB means it'll always be a plus trade imo, but dang, it's a shame it didn't pan out. I really don't think he deserves a roster spot.

Aside from the lack of effort, possibly a lack of football IQ (who knows) and the injury-proneness, it feels like there's something else with Toney. When I watch him move he seems like a 1 in a million athlete, but I'm beginning to think some of the problem is that that sort of specific athleticism isn't, I dunno, replicable? A lot of it seems like an almost intuitive sense of when to zig when the other guy zags. It's sort of unpredictable movement patterns that he can contort into that others can't. Doesn't feel like it's well shown in his agility RAS scores at all. But it's real. Maybe it's also just not a skill that is repeatable over and over again?
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