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Old 04-21-2022, 02:10 PM   #2
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Surely you mean your #1 target at CB where we're picking and not the #1 CB in the draft
Well...there's Sauce. After that I think it's debatable and comes down to preference.
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Old 04-21-2022, 01:57 PM   #3
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I'd rather take Kyler Gordon then Booth. Not sure Booth is a spags CB
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:04 PM   #4
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I'd rather take Kyler Gordon then Booth. Not sure Booth is a spags CB
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Above average height, arm length and strength. Will play physical and is a fluid athlete. Extremely versatile coming from a major program as a top recruit who was asked to do everything. Good ball skills, willing tackler (perhaps too aggressive at time). Excellent intelligence and a hot motor.

I honestly can't see a single thing Spags wouldn't like about this guy. He's almost built in a lab for what we'd want to do.
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:08 PM   #5
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Yea, Booth is a no brainer if he’s there.

I don’t think he gets by the Bills at 25 though.
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:14 PM   #6
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Expound.

Above average height, arm length and strength. Will play physical and is a fluid athlete. Extremely versatile coming from a major program as a top recruit who was asked to do everything. Good ball skills, willing tackler (perhaps too aggressive at time). Excellent intelligence and a hot motor.

I honestly can't see a single thing Spags wouldn't like about this guy. He's almost built in a lab for what we'd want to do.
Physically he is fine yeah but Clemson corners worry be a bit.
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:10 PM   #7
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I'm going to laugh if Veach trades up for a CB.
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Old 04-22-2022, 05:42 AM   #8
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I'm going to laugh if Veach trades up for a CB.
I'll laugh too, because it would mean that past tendencies mean nothing and I have no idea what Veach is thinking.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:14 AM   #9
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I'm going to laugh if Veach trades up for a CB.
I don't understand why this would be a surprise at all.

I fully expect it to happen.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:18 AM   #10
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I don't understand why this would be a surprise at all.

I fully expect it to happen.
Because people are still stuck on "Veach doesn't value CB highly". He's never had the chance to be able to grab one. We reportedly were in on Gladney in the 1st but got sniped and then he got sniped in the 2nd, I think it was 2019, for CBs that he liked.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:30 AM   #11
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Because people are still stuck on "Veach doesn't value CB highly". He's never had the chance to be able to grab one. We reportedly were in on Gladney in the 1st but got sniped and then he got sniped in the 2nd, I think it was 2019, for CBs that he liked.
What corner are you really going to trade up for? I don't think any of them are worth going after aggressively.

You use Gladney as an example but Bert wasn't motivated to flip any picks to land him.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:34 AM   #12
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What corner are you really going to trade up for? I don't think any of them are worth going after aggressively.

You use Gladney as an example but Bert wasn't motivated to flip any picks to land him.
I don't mean trading up very far. I could see 4-5 spots to grab one of the guys like Booth or Elam.
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:13 PM   #13
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Guys I think are better than Booth:


Derek Stingley Jr.
Ahmad Gardner
Trent McDuffie
Roger McCreary


I'm sure this will get a facepalm from someone but I don't like how Booth gets burned by quick receivers
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:21 PM   #14
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Guys I think are better than Booth:


Derek Stingley Jr. -Debateable
Ahmad Gardner
Trent McDuffie -Disagree
Roger McCreary -Disagree


I'm sure this will get a facepalm from someone but I don't like how Booth gets burned by quick receivers
IMO
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Old 04-21-2022, 02:34 PM   #15
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If Derek's lisfranc injury isn't a problem it isn't remotely debateable.


Not remotely.

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One of the most complete CBs to come out in years. Amazing tracking ability in man coverage, especially for someone his size. Lisfranc surgery is the big question mark. Usually career debilitating but if he overcomes it he's the best player in the draft. Also questions about effort displayed while LSU was losing.
Thoughts on the other two: yeah it's opinion. I just kind of like their write-ups more


Trent McDuffie

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One of the best players in the draft if just average athletically. Constantly sticks to his receiver, great in the run game, can tackle in the open field, and has an okay jump ball. Much improved from freshman season. Doesn't pick passes and doesn't really look for them. Probably won't get away with fighting big receivers in the NFL like he does in college.
Roger McCreary
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Man corner in Georgia's scheme. As long as the routes outside he dominates. Plays tiny when he has to go inside and lets receivers beat him in hand fights on the line. Incredibly aggressive. Always around the football. Might get punished at the next level because he's just an average athlete and Georgia's front seven gave him a lot of coverage picks.

I read this about Booth and it worried me:

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Former top recruit that shouldn't play as bad as he does. Constantly burned by quick WRs. Great back pedal but Clemson plays him almost 10 yards off the line with help over the top. Great closing speed for underneath zone coverage. Can also easily cover go routes. Might be moved to free safety despite having the athleticism to be a lockdown corner.
I'm not really interested in a guy that they are already talking about moving to safety.
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