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Old 05-18-2022, 07:46 PM   #2
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Don't you think it's impossible for this to NOT be the case?

It's always just a matter if you agree with the message and the influence it's creating.
Oh I think it can be. I'm a sucker for The Ghost and the Darkness. It's hard for me to believe you can derive a narrative from that movie.

My position has always been tell a good story, make a good movie, I'll listen to your narrative.
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Old 05-19-2022, 07:32 AM   #3
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Oh I think it can be. I'm a sucker for The Ghost and the Darkness. It's hard for me to believe you can derive a narrative from that movie.

My position has always been tell a good story, make a good movie, I'll listen to your narrative.
Is that the one with the lions and Val Kilmer?

Because that’s a CLASSIC bad good movie.

And since you’re my hayseed Tyler Durden, it makes sense you would like it.
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:16 AM   #4
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Is that the one with the lions and Val Kilmer?

Because that’s a CLASSIC bad good movie.

And since you’re my hayseed Tyler Durden, it makes sense you would like it.
My wife read the book, and said the movie, though it claims to be a true story, has nothing on the book, which she said was amazingly hard to believe. She felt they toned down the movie to make it believable...also the Michael Douglas character did not exist and the real Patterson was a total bastard who basically abandoned his family in Chicago so he could go on all his adventures.

But I love that campy ass movie. It's a classic, I wouldn't call it bad though...
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:39 AM   #5
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My wife read the book, and said the movie, though it claims to be a true story, has nothing on the book, which she said was amazingly hard to believe. She felt they toned down the movie to make it believable...also the Michael Douglas character did not exist and the real Patterson was a total bastard who basically abandoned his family in Chicago so he could go on all his adventures.

But I love that campy ass movie. It's a classic, I wouldn't call it bad though...
Val Kilmer trying to carry a movie with dramatic undertones just didn't work. And wasn't there some supernatural element to it as well? Man, I haven't seen it in probably 10 years, but I remember the spirit world ghost lion stuff being really eye-rolly.

For whatever reason "The Devil has come to Tsavo" just stands out as an all-time line. Michael Douglas was the other hunter, right? That guy was just chewing scenery the whole time.

It was a pretty bad movie from an 'objective' standpoint - but I still enjoy the hell out of it.
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Val Kilmer trying to carry a movie with dramatic undertones just didn't work.
and the shitty Irish accent didn't help either, that's for sure.

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And wasn't there some supernatural element to it as well? Man, I haven't seen it in probably 10 years, but I remember the spirit world ghost lion stuff being really eye-rolly.
yes, the idea to me was that the people thought they were more than just lions, but Patterson didn't. I don't think they were getting at anything other than these two lions did not act like normal lions.
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For whatever reason "The Devil has come to Tsavo" just stands out as an all-time line. Michael Douglas was the other hunter, right? That guy was just chewing scenery the whole time.
Definitely one of his cornier performances to be sure. It was like watching a kid scary movie type show in a way, except for the whole terrifying lion eating people thing...

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It was a pretty bad movie from an 'objective' standpoint - but I still enjoy the hell out of it.
Couldn't agree more. Used to have it on DVD but had to get rid of a bunch of that for space, and the Ghost and the Darkness didn't make the cut. But it was a fun movie and I'm sure I'll catch it again some day.
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Old 05-19-2022, 01:59 PM   #7
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Is that the one with the lions and Val Kilmer?

Because that’s a CLASSIC bad good movie.

And since you’re my hayseed Tyler Durden, it makes sense you would like it.
That's the one.

I just love the shit out of that movie. Hayseed Tyler Durden or not.
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and the shitty Irish accent didn't help either, that's for sure.
Michael Douglas's accent (wherever the hell it was supposed to be from) just put it all over the top.

The sort of 'leader' of the railroad workers and then the African hunter helper guy were the only two guys that acted worth a shit in that movie.

It was outstanding.
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