***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Son of Logical]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Welcome back.

I am always around, only post when I have something worth posting. Which apparently isn’t very often. lol

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

rule #1 posting other people's shit?

provide a ****ing link...

regardless of content you ****wit!

[Nickhead]

it's a ****ing game, have you all not figured this out yet?

this is the beta test to rid the world of overpopulation. you really need to watch....

every biological drama to figure this out

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Should be no liability. Has there been precedent where an event owner or planner has been liable for sick people coming to said event? I know of none

Sporting events have been canceled on threat of uncertain hurricanes. Don't be intentionally obtuse.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Sporting events have been canceled on threat of uncertain hurricanes. Don't be intentionally obtuse.

I'm talking about legal liability, not if events have been cancelled before because of it.

Say if a musical festival was NOT cancelled this weekend and someone contracted Coronavirus while at the concert. If they took the concert owners to court would they win for negligence?

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm talking about legal liability, not if events have been cancelled before because of it.

Say if a musical festival was NOT cancelled this weekend and someone contracted Coronavirus while at the concert. If they took the concert owners to court would they win for negligence?

One person? No big deal. Your trivial scenario is hardly the concern of the promoters. What if 2 weeks From now 200 people who attended had covid-19 and they had been walking around for 2 weeks. Are you wanting to be the concert promoter in that scenario? Geez, you don’t have to think the world will end to take sensible precautions.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Latest on #COVID19- #China recorded another new low in its new cases. added 46 cases, bringing the total number of cases to 80859. It also added 17 new deaths, bringing that number to 3100. The country also has 1666 patients recovered. pic.twitter.com/0nVttHbItP

— William Yang (@WilliamYang120) March 8, 2020

[dlphg9]

I have probably 10 of the N95 masks that I was going to sell on eBay, but eBay took my post down today because they don't allow those to be sold anymore. I was about to take it down myself because im going to give them to my stepdad. He needs all the protection he can get since he has COPD, Congestive Heart Failure, and is about to have surgery to remove a malignant tumor in his esophagus. If he got this he will die. His immune system is suppressed since he just recently finished chemo and radiation.

[eDave]

Quarantined Wuhan kids find brilliant way to get out of schoolwork

"Somehow the little brats worked out that if enough users gave the app a one-star review it would get booted off the App Store. Tens of thousands of reviews flooded in, and DingTalk’s rating plummeted overnight from 4.9 to 1.4. The app has had to beg for mercy on social media: 'I'm only five years old myself, please don’t kill me.'"

https://mashable.com/article/wuhan-k...p-coronavirus/

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by eDave

Quarantined Wuhan kids find brilliant way to get out of schoolwork

"Somehow the little brats worked out that if enough users gave the app a one-star review it would get booted off the App Store. Tens of thousands of reviews flooded in, and DingTalk’s rating plummeted overnight from 4.9 to 1.4. The app has had to beg for mercy on social media: 'I'm only five years old myself, please don’t kill me.'"

https://mashable.com/article/wuhan-k...p-coronavirus/

I saw this earlier. Wonder how they got that going.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Italy is putting 1/4 it's population into lockdown through April 3rd.

[F150]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm talking about legal liability, not if events have been cancelled before because of it.

Say if a musical festival was NOT cancelled this weekend and someone contracted Coronavirus while at the concert. If they took the concert owners to court would they win for negligence?

Safe to say, should your event happen and someone turns up positive past event:

1) Local media will make it a circus.
2) Blame will flow like lava from the Stupidity Volcano
3) Lawsuits will be filed against the event promotor, the city/county/state
4) Lawyers will line up like turkey vultures and sell sign ups for a class action

[SupDock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...bergamo_in_the

[KCUnited]

One cannoli hope the situation improves in Italy.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by SupDock

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...bergamo_in_the

Holy shit