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UChieffyBugger · 10-13-2019, 06:22 PM

The history books tell everyone what is needed to succeed..DEFENSE. And yet here we are, following the same path as the Vikings 98, Rams 2001 and all the other "great" offenses that didn't win a damn thing. Since 2001 the proof is there for all to see!!..Seahawks, Ravens, Denver, Steelers, Patriots, Tampa, Giants etc etc have all won because of good defense and before we waste another year of our genius QB, I believe In the offseason we should tear this thing down and begin the process of building a competent defense so we can have a realistic chance of finally winning a championship.

If it means getting rid of Andy and Veach...DO IT.

If it means getting rid of some of our offensive stars, collecting picks, drafting all defense and spending all the money we have on defense...DO IT

We've seen the mistakes Green bay have made with Rodgers and now finally they have given him a decent defense for the first time In ten years and they look very good. We need to start the process NOW and hopefully Pat would be able to elevate less talented offensive players If need be. Because I simply cannot see any way around this...the current philosophy is a losing hand, PERIOD. We saw it last year and sadly we're gonna see it again this year!!..bank on it.

Johnny Vegas · 10-13-2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake

You’re confusing fair weather with bandwagon. Influx of new heads would be bandwagon. Fair weather would be having a meltdown and abandoning ship in week 6, like this board is doing.

Pretty sure those “abandoning ship” have been life long fans which, again, haven’t ever tasted success since 1969.

UChieffyBugger · 10-13-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

We do need a culture change. It's time to become a defensive team. When you have a QB like Mahomes you don't need many other pieces on offense. You keep Reek and Kelce. If you can pick up a solid RB then great. Other than that we need to focus on defense Baltimore style. Or even New England style.

NE has rotated WR's and RB's like nothing. What they do maintain is solid lines and and good defenses.

If we had a solid defense then Mahomes, Hill and Kelce would absolutely wreck shit.

This is what I'm talking about!!..this is the plan Veach should have in his head tonight. Enough is enough.

Megatron96 · 10-13-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

NE=great QB + great defense.

KC= great QB + great WR + great TE + horrible defense

We need to focus less on the offensive skill positions and more on the defense overall

I'm confused; I was using the Giants as a reference, not NE.

But I do agree that the team really needs to get their defensive eggs sorted out. The offense, when healthy is good enough to get us there. Which is why the Chiefs have time yet to resolve their issues and be significantly better. Not world beaters, but good enough to give the offense a chance to win in Feb.

Halfcan · 10-13-2019, 06:51 PM

Andy needs to retire.

JakeF · 10-13-2019, 06:51 PM

Pittsburgh has been successful for decades largely because they are tough, disciplined and physical.

We are none of those things.

Why Not? · 10-13-2019, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake

If you see him as a regular season coach and want a super bowl. Why are you ready to give up on him in week 6. If we finish 10-6 from here and win a SB, does this game matter?

All I’m saying is let the playoffs play out, if we lose games like this to good teams in the reg season but win in the offs, that gives us what we truly want.

Pats started 1-2 last year. The Regular season does not matter beyond making the playoffs and there’s 0 chance we don’t make it. If we lose in the playoffs I’ll agree, but let’s wait to see that play out first.

Associating our team with the Patriots in any reference to the post season is beyond silly. We have seen it play out. We’ve seen Reid lead the Chiefs to the post season many times. What do we have to show for it? Nothing but failure and literally historic collapse. Look man, if the Chiefs win the SB this year and especially if it’s clear that Andy called a great game, please repost this and I will cyber bow down. I don’t think he can win us a SB. Would love to be wrong.

kcpasco · 10-13-2019, 06:52 PM

League favors a pedophile QB. It is what it is.

threebag · 10-13-2019, 06:52 PM

Everything will be good

Jerm · 10-13-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

League favors a pedophile QB. It is what it is.

Oh good God....

ChiefaRoo · 10-13-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

No we don't.

We need Eric Fisher and Chris Jones.

The Chiefs need to put 7/8 in the box and fill gaps. Stop the run at all costs and risk the deep strike. It’s all they’ve got.

kcpasco · 10-13-2019, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Oh good God....

Truth hurts. Tell me the Pats get a penalty reversed against them?

Sorter · 10-13-2019, 06:56 PM

SB this year is still possible despite our flaws.

However, Veach needs to obtain more picks and invest on both lines early. One of the things that is completely absent the past three games is an ability to run the ball under center and develop a PA package off it (although this is probably due to OL injuries).

IMO, for this team to be successful later in the year we need to have a minimum of 14-22 IZ/OZ plays per game with roughly half being under center. That doesn’t include power/counters/tosses etc that are game specific.

The defense should be below average (but not the worst in yards/points allowed) if this happens.

**petegz28** · 10-13-2019, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

The Chiefs need to put 7/8 in the box and fill gaps. Stop the run at all costs and risk the deep strike. It’s all they’ve got.

We're getting stood up and knocked off the ball every snap. O-lineman are getting to the second level too easy. We aren't even hitting the QB let alone getting a sack. We need to start playing defense and quit this bullshit we are doing.

kcpasco · 10-13-2019, 06:58 PM

I don’t ****ing care if it’s whining. That BS penalty reversal was the difference between a win and a loss. But go ahead and accept rape up the ass.

JakeF · 10-13-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

No we don't.

We need Eric Fisher and Chris Jones.

You hate Eric Fisher almost as much as you do Alex Smith. Did you have to ask someone else to type that for you?

10-13-2019, 06:22 PM
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 UChieffyBugger's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2018	WE NEED A CULTURE CHANGE!! The history books tell everyone what is needed to succeed..DEFENSE. And yet here we are, following the same path as the Vikings 98, Rams 2001 and all the other "great" offenses that didn't win a damn thing. Since 2001 the proof is there for all to see!!..Seahawks, Ravens, Denver, Steelers, Patriots, Tampa, Giants etc etc have all won because of good defense and before we waste another year of our genius QB, I believe In the offseason we should tear this thing down and begin the process of building a competent defense so we can have a realistic chance of finally winning a championship. If it means getting rid of Andy and Veach...DO IT. If it means getting rid of some of our offensive stars, collecting picks, drafting all defense and spending all the money we have on defense...DO IT We've seen the mistakes Green bay have made with Rodgers and now finally they have given him a decent defense for the first time In ten years and they look very good. We need to start the process NOW and hopefully Pat would be able to elevate less talented offensive players If need be. Because I simply cannot see any way around this...the current philosophy is a losing hand, PERIOD. We saw it last year and sadly we're gonna see it again this year!!..bank on it. Last edited by UChieffyBugger; 10-13-2019 at 06:33 PM..
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Sorter Caralho Sorter's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2011	SB this year is still possible despite our flaws. However, Veach needs to obtain more picks and invest on both lines early. One of the things that is completely absent the past three games is an ability to run the ball under center and develop a PA package off it (although this is probably due to OL injuries). IMO, for this team to be successful later in the year we need to have a minimum of 14-22 IZ/OZ plays per game with roughly half being under center. That doesn’t include power/counters/tosses etc that are game specific. The defense should be below average (but not the worst in yards/points allowed) if this happens.
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kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007	I don’t ****ing care if it’s whining. That BS penalty reversal was the difference between a win and a loss. But go ahead and accept rape up the ass.
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