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Old 09-22-2019, 02:38 PM   #2
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4th quarter they shit the bed and let the Ravens back in the game.

There were a lot of positives in the first 3 quarters.

This is the second time in 3 games the defense has given up 2 TD's in the 4th quarter.

Gotta get better and stop that shit. Defense is lacking a killer instinct right now.
That Jacksonoville game was garbage time shit....so not even going there
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:45 PM   #3
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That Jacksonoville game was garbage time shit....so not even going there
Patriots have had garbage time for 3 straight weeks and not given up any TD's.

We keep playing 4th quarters like this and we will get burned eventually....so tighten it up, cut that shit out, and this defense will start looking pretty decent.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:46 PM   #4
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Patriots have had garbage time for 3 straight weeks and not given up any TD's.

We keep playing 4th quarters like this and we will get burned eventually....so tighten it up, cut that shit out, and this defense will start looking pretty decent.
The Pats have not played an NFL team yet. Who gives a shit?
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:48 PM   #5
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Patriots have had garbage time for 3 straight weeks and not given up any TD's.

We keep playing 4th quarters like this and we will get burned eventually....so tighten it up, cut that shit out, and this defense will start looking pretty decent.
Who the **** have the Pats played? Miami????? WOW!
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:44 PM   #6
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4th quarter they shit the bed and let the Ravens back in the game.

There were a lot of positives in the first 3 quarters.

This is the second time in 3 games the defense has given up 2 TD's in the 4th quarter.

Gotta get better and stop that shit. Defense is lacking a killer instinct right now.
The defense went into prevent.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:46 PM   #7
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The defense went into prevent.
I would argue they did that way too ****ing soon. We had to get a first down in the last two minutes to seal the win...should have never come to that.

The whole 4th quarter was shit D. 15 points and all kinds of yards given up. It has to get better.

Keep playing with fire and we will get burned.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:49 PM   #8
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I would argue they did that way too ****ing soon. We had to get a first down in the last two minutes to seal the win...should have never come to that.

The whole 4th quarter was shit D. 15 points and all kinds of yards given up. It has to get better.

Keep playing with fire and we will get burned.
People always love to say stuff like this as if there's no reason that teams should ever do it.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:53 PM   #9
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People always love to say stuff like this as if there's no reason that teams should ever do it.
Depends on how much time was left. Gave them too much time today and it almost bit us in the ass. The fact that Harbaugh can't do basic math and constantly went for 2 was a factor in our favor.

There are reasons to play prevent, sure....but you gotta make sure the prevent is burning enough time off of the clock...not enough resistance in our prevent, been that way for a long time. Hope it gets better as the defense gels.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:54 PM   #10
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Depends on how much time was left. Gave them too much time today and it almost bit us in the ass. The fact that Harbaugh can't do basic math and constantly went for 2 was a factor in our favor.

There are reasons to play prevent, sure....but you gotta make sure the prevent is burning enough time off of the clock...not enough resistance in our prevent, been that way for a long time. Hope it gets better as the defense gels.
Did we win the game? Do we USUALLY win the game when Andy goes into a shell? Why is that?
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:54 PM   #11
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What?

Dude, not even close.

This run defense is much better than last year's.

EVERY ****ING RUN last year got 5+ yards. That was what killed us. We still give up long runs too often, but we're done giving teams 2nd and 2 after an 8 yard run on 1st down. I don't care what the average YPC stats say. We're holding runners to less than 2 yards on a given carry far more often than last year. And that's important.

If Spags figures out how to ****ing stop giving up these 3rd and longs, we're going to be just fine.
Bro, we're probably giving up upwards of 7 YPC. I'm not polishing this turd- this run defense sucks.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:59 PM   #12
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Bro, we're probably giving up upwards of 7 YPC. I'm not polishing this turd- this run defense sucks.
Neither am I. I'm saying the run defense is better because they stop runs for short gains far more often than they did last year.

That's not polishing a turd. That's just stating a statistic. Is the run defense better than last year's abortion? I would say yes.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:23 PM   #13
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Depends on how much time was left. Gave them too much time today and it almost bit us in the ass. The fact that Harbaugh can't do basic math and constantly went for 2 was a factor in our favor.

There are reasons to play prevent, sure....but you gotta make sure the prevent is burning enough time off of the clock...not enough resistance in our prevent, been that way for a long time. Hope it gets better as the defense gels.
I think the offense has to bear some of that, too. We've got a kind of worrisome trend going the last two weeks in that we pile on yards and points in the first half, and then just sort of shut down after halftime. And we didn't really answer Baltimore drive-for-drive today, when they started to get on their roll late, which is not what you want for a team built around its offense. Now obviously part of that was the bad snap on 4th and 2, but still, we've either got an issue with second half execution, we've got an issue with second half adjustments, or we've got an issue where we're stepping off the gas when we feel comfortable with a lead (which is a Reid trait, historically).

Whatever the case is, it needs to stop. We're not a team built to win defensively, and that Ravens defense is not talented enough that they should be holding our offense to a field goal over a quarter and a half, much less the Raiders shutting us down for an entire half.

Not that there weren't some optimistic signs today. Real nice run on the FG drive, and when it looked like they were going to splutter and give Baltimore a chance to win in the last minute, that screen call that ended the game was just perfect, call and execution both.
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