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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-06-2022, 02:48 PM   #811
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I like that draft a lot.
I'm not sure the trade up from the 4ths to the end of the 3rd is really worth it, but I was trying to channel what the Chiefs actually would do. And turning 8 picks in the top 4 rounds into 6 picks seems more likely.
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Old 04-06-2022, 03:08 PM   #812
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I like that draft a lot.
I like the players but I don't feel like we accomplished much by trading back in that scenario.... all those guys should be there at our original picks

We might miss out on Karlaftis.. but wouldn't Cam Thomas be there?
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Old 04-06-2022, 03:14 PM   #813
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I like the players but I don't feel like we accomplished much by trading back in that scenario.... all those guys should be there at our original picks

We might miss out on Karlaftis.. but wouldn't Cam Thomas be there?
going back 7 spots (from 30-37) netting a 23 spot move up from 103 to 80 and a new pick in the sixth. That's a nice exchange.

And yes, Cam Thomas is THE backup plan if you want Karlaftis and miss.
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Old 04-06-2022, 04:50 PM   #814
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going back 7 spots (from 30-37) netting a 23 spot move up from 103 to 80 and a new pick in the sixth. That's a nice exchange.

And yes, Cam Thomas is THE backup plan if you want Karlaftis and miss.
I'm not certain he's not just a better plan, period.
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:03 PM   #815
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The yuck is that the pass rushers are very similar players and aren't really guys you would pair at opposite ends.

And the CBs are both pretty big reaches.
The DEs are reaches as well.

That draft sucks. Hard.
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:14 PM   #816
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The DEs are reaches as well.

That draft sucks. Hard.
I totally understand that’s your opinion, but Mafe is a consensus late 1st rounder at this point.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s Daniel Jeremiah, Lance Zierlein, Matt Miller, TDN, PFF, PFN, etc. they ALL have him as a late 1st to early 2nd round pick.

That’s a consensus.
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:36 PM   #817
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I'm not certain he's not just a better plan, period.
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Old 04-06-2022, 10:13 PM   #818
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Would anybody be mad if we traded away a 1, 2 and 3 next year to get us this draft? I know it’s 3 edge guys, but I couldn’t pass on Sam Williams that late in the draft.
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Old 04-06-2022, 10:50 PM   #819
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Why do you keep drafting two RBs?
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Old 04-06-2022, 10:55 PM   #820
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Mahomes, Henne, Buechele
CEH, Cook, Ford, Gore, Jones
Williams, Juju, MVS, Hardman, Fountain, Gordon, Powell
Kelce, Fortson, Noah, Bell

Brown, Christian, Swenson
Thuney, Allegreti
Humphrey, Reiter
Smith, Williams
Wylie, Niang, Tom

Johnson, Williams, Kaindoh
Jones, Wharton, Billings, Stsllworth
Davis, Nnadi, Saunders, Neal
Thomas, Clark, Danna

WGJ, Carter
Bolton, Calhoun
Tindall, Harris, Lee

Snead, McCollum
Fenton, Baker
Barqoo, Bootie

Reid, Brisker, Key
Thornhill, Bush

Im sure we would be an immediate priority destination for a FA CB and UDFA CBs. Same goes for a couple LBers.
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Old 04-06-2022, 11:10 PM   #821
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Why do you keep drafting two RBs?
Cook is a weapon that would fit Andy’s offense perfectly. He would give this offense some juice at RB and I think he could give Clyde a run for his money. I think we draft him at the end of Friday night.

Ford is the other back in this class that I really think can be special. brings a lot to the table and is stupid good value at that point in the 4th. At that point, there weren’t any other WRs left or other guys I could see as weapons this offense could use, so I took another weapon at the same position.

Both have 4.4 speed that allows Andy to run a lot more plays for them than he can with any of the backs on the current roster…are cheap for 4 years, have playmaker potential and I think fit pretty well skill set wise to what Andy asks of his backs.

I wanted to go into this super deep draft and get as much “firepower” as I could from each pick.
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Old 04-07-2022, 05:27 AM   #822
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Would anybody be mad if we traded away a 1, 2 and 3 next year to get us this draft? I know it’s 3 edge guys, but I couldn’t pass on Sam Williams that late in the draft.
Love the players! Super hard pill to swallow next year.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:25 AM   #823
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I’m a fan of Peter Schrager, but not his mock lol. He did have some nice things to say about the Chiefs a couple days ago. He’s been paying attention.




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Old 04-07-2022, 06:27 AM   #824
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Lol Chiefs pass on Karlaftis to trade back? No way.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:28 AM   #825
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So we traded with Seattle? For what I wonder...
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