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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-01-2022, 12:51 PM   #691
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You are not trading from #29 to #13 for a 3rd round comp pick and two 7th rounders.

Also three WRs with our first three picks is some borderline reeruned shit.
lol the trade was offered to me on the simulator

Figured I'd **** about and take my 3 favorite WRs and see what could be done afterward.

A boy can dream, can't he?
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Old 04-01-2022, 12:54 PM   #692
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I don't even know what the **** you're asking for at this point.

Multiple people have listed multiple players that they like and the rounds in which they would take them. People have also listed how they fit into this offense moving forward.
It's like, LITERALLY, the entire subforum.

I am very confused.
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Old 04-01-2022, 12:55 PM   #693
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lol the trade was offered to me on the simulator

Figured I'd **** about and take my 3 favorite WRs and see what could be done afterward.

A boy can dream, can't he?
What simulator? I've yet to see a simulator that offers a trade up.
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Old 04-01-2022, 12:56 PM   #694
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What simulator? I've yet to see a simulator that offers a trade up.
Same here.
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Old 04-01-2022, 12:56 PM   #695
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lol the trade was offered to me on the simulator

Figured I'd **** about and take my 3 favorite WRs and see what could be done afterward.

A boy can dream, can't he?
on a trade up?

There was probably a future 2nd that was part of the suggested trade on whatever site you used. The trades I’ve used on the PFN site follow the draft value chart pretty well. It won’t allow that kind of trade.
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:03 PM   #696
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on a trade up?

There was probably a future 2nd that was part of the suggested trade on whatever site you used. The trades I’ve used on the PFN site follow the draft value chart pretty well. It won’t allow that kind of trade.
I did several tries to get up to 19 with the Eagles. The PFN simulator wouldn't take anything less than 30 and 50 (or equivalent value).

And he was going up to 13...
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:09 PM   #697
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Am I the only one that watches Ojabo play and thinks…wow…that’s what we were hoping to get from Dee Ford. Very similar athleticism and speed as a pursuit tackler….but Ojabo has natural instincts Ford never had…he also has a football temperament and plays with an edge.

I know he’s polarizing and it’s a coin flip on if he’s even on our board in the first 50 picks…but I can help but watch him and think “this is the version of Dee Ford that was never going to materialize because Ford was a stupid player with no instincts”.
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:12 PM   #698
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Am I the only one that watches Ojabo play and thinks…wow…that’s what we were hoping to get from Dee Ford. Very similar athleticism and speed as a pursuit tackler….but Ojabo has natural instincts Ford never had…he also has a football temperament and plays with an edge.

I know he’s polarizing and it’s a coin flip on if he’s even on our board in the first 50 picks…but I can help but watch him and think “this is the version of Dee Ford that was never going to materialize because Ford was a stupid player with no instincts”.
Ford never materialized because he couldn't stay healthy. And here you have a guy with an explosive first step that ruptured his Achilles.

Polarizing indeed.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:10 PM   #699
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I think if NPF is there at that point, we need to take that swing.

29.

Chris Olave
WR Ohio State
KC
32.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
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KC
50.

Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota
KC
62.

Jalen Pitre
S Baylor
KC
66.

Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati
trade icon
KC
103.

Nicholas Petit-Frere
OT Ohio State
KC
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
KC
135.

Brian Robinson Jr.
RB Alabama
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:27 PM   #700
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29. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
30. Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota
50. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn
62. Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State
94. Josh Williams, CB, Fayetteville State
103. Isaiah Thomas, EDGE, Oklahoma
121. Cordell Volson, OT, North Dakota State
135. JT Woods, S, Baylor
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:39 PM   #701
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Couple of mid-round deals got me some extra firepower and I probably overdid it at WR but man this would be a KILLER outcome.

30: Devonte Wyatt
43: David Ojabo
58: Sam Williams
62: John Metchie
74: Jalen Tolbert
82: Greg Dulcich
94: Nicholas Petit-Frere
103: Calvin Austin
121: Nick Cross
135: Rasheed Walker

All that capital and I never did get a CB but the board just didn't fall right where I thought it was the best player there. I probably should've gone with Alontae Taylor or Zyon McCollum at pick 103 but if I'm in for a penny, I'm in for a pound with my boy Calvin Austin (no way Veach takes 3 WRs, though). Didn't get my linebacker either. Troy Andersen when a couple picks before I expected him to and I didn't realize that the fast-backers were mostly picked over by then.

I doubled up on the OL but I think NPF may end up inside when it's all said and done. And Walker probably isn't a year 1 guy anyway. In a couple seasons when you may need to make a decision on Thuney's cap number, perhaps NPF slides inside and by then Walker's ready for RT.
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:44 PM   #702
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Watch some of Freres highlight videos.

The way that man recovers from power moves that transition to spins or swims is unreal. His recovery is top shelf stuff. And he moves so well for his size. I think he would be GREAT in this offense that attacks horizontally snd on all the sweeps and screens that require OL to move well in space.
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:46 PM   #703
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Watch some of Freres highlight videos.

The way that man recovers from power moves that transition to spins or swims is unreal. His recovery is top shelf stuff. And he moves so well for his size. I think he would be GREAT in this offense that attacks horizontally snd on all the sweeps and screens that require OL to move well in space.
Yeah - I think he's been sliding in the 'mock' community but won't in real life.

I'd be floored if he's there at 94. I could see him being gone before 50. I know he's lost momentum and is nobody's hotness right now, but that's a really good football player, IMO.

Then again I think I mentioned him as a dark-horse potential first round pick back in January so I may not be a reliable narrator here. Could just be that I'm too high on him.
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I call it my "David Ojabo no matter what" draft.

Colts gave up 42 and 73 to move up for Sam Howell.

30. David Ojabo EDGE Michigan
42. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State
50. Travis Jones DT Connecticut
62. Bernhard Raimann OT Central Michigan
73. Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama
94. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State
103. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
121. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State
135. JT Woods S Baylor
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:52 PM   #705
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Let’s go hunt opposing AFCW QBs.

29.

George Karlaftis
EDGE Purdue
KC
30.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
KC
50.

Travis Jones
DT Connecticut
KC
62.

Chad Muma
LB Wyoming
KC
94.

George Pickens
WR Georgia
KC
103.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
121.

Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma
KC
135.

Alontae Taylor
CB Tennessee
KC
233.

Eyioma Uwazurike
DT Iowa State
KC
243.

Tycen Anderson
S Toledo
KC
251.

Jermaine Waller
CB Virginia Tech
KC
259.

D'Marco Jackson
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