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Old 12-14-2020, 02:21 PM   #2
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He sucked balls. An emo toddler with force powers. He was as bad a villain as Nero in Star Trek.

Again, I don't blame the actor. He was the victim of bad stories and bad directing.

I pretty much hate VII through IX as much as I do I through III. They're all bad movies. The only good, truly enjoyable Star Wars movies made since the 80s are Rogue One and Solo.
Exactly.

There was nothing "cool" or "calculating" about Kylo Ren.

He continually acted like a spoiled child and had zero control of his emotions. His "redemption" was about as a dumb as possible.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:13 PM   #3
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Exactly.

There was nothing "cool" or "calculating" about Kylo Ren.

He continually acted like a spoiled child and had zero control of his emotions. His "redemption" was about as a dumb as possible.
It's really amazing how badly Jar Jar Abrams bumbled Star Wars and Star Trek. I've learned to hate that ****er the same way I do David Lynch.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:12 PM   #4
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He sucked balls. An emo toddler with force powers. He was as bad a villain as Nero in Star Trek.
That's what he was SUPPOSED to be.

He was never supposed to be Darth Vader.

Kylo was a believable character. Anakin was complete trash.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:19 PM   #5
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That's what he was SUPPOSED to be.

He was never supposed to be Darth Vader.

Kylo was a believable character. Anakin was complete trash.
He was a punk ass bitch. I guess that's believable. Lord knows there's no shortage of punk ass bitches in the world. Doesn't change the fact that he was an absolutely awful villain.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:22 PM   #6
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He was a punk ass bitch. I guess that's believable. Lord knows there's no shortage of punk ass bitches in the world. Doesn't change the fact that he was an absolutely awful villain.
That's the thing though - he was never intended to be.

He was intended to be a problem child.

It was a well executed character, both in terms of writing and acting, and the only reason to watch any of those stupid movies.

I can't say the same for Anakin at any point, except in the Clone Wars cartoon.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:28 PM   #7
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That's the thing though - he was never intended to be.

He was intended to be a problem child.

It was a well executed character, both in terms of writing and acting, and the only reason to watch any of those stupid movies.

I can't say the same for Anakin at any point, except in the Clone Wars cartoon.
And that goes back to Jar Jar Abrams.

VII was basically a rehashing of the original movie with a whiny child as the bad guy, a girl as Luke, and Han Solo as Kenobi. There is NO reason to it. And sadly it's the best of the three.
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Old 12-17-2020, 12:59 PM   #8
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And that goes back to Jar Jar Abrams.

VII was basically a rehashing of the original movie with a whiny child as the bad guy, a girl as Luke, and Han Solo as Kenobi. There is NO reason to it. And sadly it's the best of the three.
At least it actually felt like a SW movie, even if they had to plagiarize IV to do it.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:59 PM   #9
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Kylo was a believable character. Anakin was complete trash.
133 episodes of The Clone Wars animated series disagrees.
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Old 12-14-2020, 04:26 PM   #10
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133 episodes of The Clone Wars animated series disagrees.
He was fine in the Clone Wars.
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