***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Skyy God]

Milestone daily case numbers:

June 30 - 50K
October 30 - 100K
November 11 - 150K

With 161K yesterday, we may be at 200K in a week to 10 days.

[DaFace]

I'd suspected this was the case, but this is good news.

Dr. Fauci says it appears Covid strain from Danish mink farms won't be a problem for vaccines https://t.co/END80bBQd9

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 13, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'd suspected this was the case, but this is good news.

Dr. Fauci says it appears Covid strain from Danish mink farms won't be a problem for vaccines https://t.co/END80bBQd9

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 13, 2020

Good to hear

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'd suspected this was the case, but this is good news.

Dr. Fauci says it appears Covid strain from Danish mink farms won't be a problem for vaccines https://t.co/END80bBQd9

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 13, 2020

Rain Main tryin ta KILL US!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

Last I saw, the CDC still says it's more like 10 to 1. So, we're at 110,000,000 cases right now. That's 33% of the population. I think it pretty clear that we haven't reached herd immunity at 33% like some were claiming we'd hit it. If it really is 60 to 80%, I don't even want to think about it.

It should atleast be enough to slow down the spread

[WhawhaWhat]

"We have no backup" says an emotional Dr. Garza. Says if we stay on current course "won't have staff we need" in two weeks. Calling for @GovParsonMO to mandate masks statewide and issue "safer at home" order. "Would help rural and urban healthcare systems" pic.twitter.com/cO95lqa9vo

— Casey Nolen (@CaseyNolen) November 13, 2020

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

I just don't get what makes you guys so scared. What's changed since March? Let me guess. More scary media telling you to wear a mask.

Not that I haven't been wearing a mask since the beginning - but losing 3 people you know in a 3 weeks is reason enough to wear one.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

It should atleast be enough to slow down the spread

When? 50%?

[O.city]

Sweden taking it on the chin again

Had hoped they wouldn’t

Damn

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

When? 50%?

Once we get above 30, theoretically.

Depends on superspreaders etc.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

"We have no backup" says an emotional Dr. Garza. Says if we stay on current course "won't have staff we need" in two weeks. Calling for @GovParsonMO to mandate masks statewide and issue "safer at home" order. "Would help rural and urban healthcare systems" pic.twitter.com/cO95lqa9vo

— Casey Nolen (@CaseyNolen) November 13, 2020

Parsons.... no comment on that dude. Yesterday he announced an option for schools to disregard CDC guidelines and that any teacher\student that tests positives and was wearing masks they don't have to be considered a close contact that way they can stay in school.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Parsons.... no comment on that dude. Yesterday he announced an option for schools to disregard CDC guidelines and that any teacher\student that tests positives and was wearing masks they don't have to be considered a close contact that way they can stay in school.

And it was the right call.

[O.city]

Iowa hospitals and health care systems on the verge of collapse?

[O.city]

We have been told from the beginning as long as we are wearing the proper PPE and around a positive case we don't have to isolate. Thats with proper PPE though, not just a mask.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Once we get above 30, theoretically.

Depends on superspreaders etc.

Right, and we already are at ~33% if the CDC is right. We seem to be accelerating almost exponentially.