It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.

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Originally Posted by JD10367

And how many rings did Reid have?

Before Mahomes? Zero. That's exactly my point.

Originally Posted by JD10367

People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over.

The best coach of all time should be able to manage .500 though shouldn't he?

Look, I'm not saying he's a bad coach. He's a really good coach. But he's still just a coach.

Let me make this even more clear since people don't seem to understand it:

Coaches DO NOT win championships, QB's do. Period.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by JD10367

And how many rings did Reid have?

People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over.

Is this clown serious with this?

The Browns were a perennial winner and had one down year before Belichick took over. Then they moved and the franchise had a few more shitty years under a nobody coach before hiring a decent coach and winning the SB and becoming a perennial winner again. With crappy QBs.

Love how this guy compares to the new Browns, as if they have any relevance.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by JD10367

And how many rings did Reid have?

People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Is this clown serious with this?

The Browns were a perennial winner and had one down year before Belichick took over. Then they moved and the franchise had a few more shitty years under a nobody coach before hiring a decent coach and winning the SB and becoming a perennial winner again. With crappy QBs.

Love how this guy compares to the new Browns, as if they have any relevance.

Putting Bill on the Browns was symbolism. The Browns were the Original dynasty. They owned the 1940s to the 1960s. He had to there for baptism into new England to have the second greatest dynasty