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Old 03-07-2024, 11:36 AM  
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The New NFL's "Hybrid Kickoff" Proposal
Thought this was interesting. It should be wild if this is implemented (possibly this season).
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Old 03-07-2024, 01:18 PM   #16
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I just don't like anything that makes kicking and special teams a bigger part of the game, as it potentially evens the playing field some for the less talented teams. And I've always hated gimmicky comebacks with a late score followed by an onside kick. Not good for a team like the Chiefs that are rarely down 2 scores late.

Kickers gonna have to learn to control distance. Seems convoluted and gimmicky ala the XFL.
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Old 03-07-2024, 01:35 PM   #17
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I just don't like anything that makes kicking and special teams a bigger part of the game, as it potentially evens the playing field some for the less talented teams.
How does this even make sense?
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Old 03-07-2024, 01:57 PM   #18
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The idea of it seems good…returning some excitement (and, yeah, luck) to make kickoffs AND end-of-game moments more interesting than they are currently, usually—while keeping safety a priority. However, it does seem more convoluted than necessary. I do agree they need to back up the kickoff if they decide to give this a try; and figuring out a fair and equitable approach to officiating the “landing zone” needs to be refined a bit, IMO.

Imagine the quandary facing Toub if Toney is still on the squad (or Hardman returns) come September…
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Old 03-07-2024, 06:10 PM   #19
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I like it, but not sure about the bolded part. Seems like it would result a lot of penalties, and a lot of wasted time enforcing penalties. Not sure why they need to limit onside kicks the fourth quarter.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...24-per-report/

NFL special teams coordinators have made a proposal that if approved would drastically change the kickoff in 2024, according to NFL Media.

Here are the three biggest nuggets from the proposal, which would need 75 percent approval from league owners to be put into effect:

Onside kicks: Teams can attempt onside kicks only in the fourth quarter and if they are trailing.

A new setup zone: Kick and return teams would line up on the receiving team's 40 and 35-yard-line, respectively. Neither team could leave on the kickoff until the ball reaches the "target zone," which is the 20-yard-line to the goal line. This is similar to the kickoff the XFL employed in 2023.

Touchbacks: Teams will get the ball on the 35-yard-line if the ball is kicked in the end zone. They'll get the ball at the 20-yard-line if the ball is kicked inside the "target zone" and rolls into the end zone.

Regarding onside kicks, teams may possibly be allowed to have an unbalanced formation, which is currently not permitted. That would likely increase the rate of onside kick attempts.

Ultimately, the NFL wants to encourage more returns while reducing high-speed collisions. Only 22 percent of kickoffs were returned in 2023. None of the 13 kickoffs in Super Bowl LVIII were returned.

The league wants to increase kickoff returns without increasing the concussion rate. Concussions on kickoffs was the reason why the NFL recently changed its kickoff model in the first place.
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Old 03-07-2024, 07:11 PM   #20
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I always thought it’d be a good idea that if the kicker kicked the ball through the goal posts they’d get one or two points. But if you miss, the other team gets the ball at the 40.
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Old 03-07-2024, 09:36 PM   #21
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The kickoff team would follow the current alignment rules, with the 10 cover players, excluding only the kicker, required to have a foot on the opponent’s 40-yard line.

The bulk of the return team would be in a so-called “setup zone”, between the 30- and 35-yard line. At least nine players would have to be in that area, and six of them would have to have a foot on the 35.

Teams would then put one or two returners in the “landing zone,” which would be between the 20-yard and the goal line.

No one would be allowed to move other than the kicker and returners until the ball was fielded by a man on the return team.

No fair catches.

To incentivize creating returns, if the ball landed in the end zone, or went through the end zone, on the fly, a touchback would take the ball out to the 35-yard line.

If the ball, on the other hand, bounced in the landing zone, and was then downed in the end zone, a touchback would only take the ball to the 20-yard line.

If the ball didn’t get past the 20-yard line on the fly, it’d be treated as an out-of-bounds kick, and the offense would take possession on the 40.
Just wait for the Refs to make a controversial decision/interpretation on this in a Bill's game and y'all be back to square one.
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Old 03-07-2024, 10:26 PM   #22
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can’t move until the ball is touched…so the return guy gets a full sprinting head start…seems like all the advantage is to the receiving team
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:19 AM   #23
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I like it the way it is now with our current team. With our defense and knowing they'll start at the 25 works for us.
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:01 AM   #24
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Do away with kickers all together.. Go for 2.. never punt and get the ball on the 30 after a TD.. ****ing kickers..
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Old 03-09-2024, 08:27 AM   #25
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Do away with kickers all together.. Go for 2.. never punt and get the ball on the 30 after a TD.. ****ing kickers..
Still gonna call it football?
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Do away with kickers all together.. Go for 2.. never punt and get the ball on the 30 after a TD.. ****ing kickers..
Putting the FOOT back in football!

Oh wait…
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Old 03-09-2024, 09:32 AM   #29
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This is all very dumb.
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This is all very dumb.
Not as dumb as lining up to kick the ball thru the end zone every time.
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