Potential 1st round Targets

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd have a similar list but broken up a bit (which means I probably won't get most of them)

2nd:

Walker
McMillan
Mitchell
Worthy
Legette
Wilson
Burton (would need the interviews to go well)

3rd:

McConkey
Polk
Pearsall
Rice
Thrash (curious to see how he times; he looks faster than the listed times for him)

Does that mean I wouldn't end up getting any of those guys I list as 3rd round guys? Yeah - probably. But I wouldn't be happy to see any of them taken in the 2nd so I'd just shrug and move along. Any one of them COULD be guys I move up into that 2nd round status (probably not Thrash), but I don't think it's terribly likely.

I expect most in that first group to be gone, and I'd gladly take Polk or Pearsall at 64, but McConkey and Rice are an example of guys being available that would probably lead me to punt on WR in the 2nd.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I expect most in that first group to be gone, and I'd gladly take Polk or Pearsall at 64, but McConkey and Rice are an example of guys being available that would probably lead me to punt on WR in the 2nd.

Rice, oddly enough, is someone I think I'd like more if he WASN'T named Rice. I just push-back hard enough against the "Oh it's Jerry's kid" gimmick that I can't help but wonder if I'm pushing TOO hard.

Because there's a lot to like there. He might be pretty damn good; better than my cynical ass is giving him credit for.

[kcbubb]

What do y’all see as the total of wrs selected in each round? This just isn’t adding up to me. Looks like you’re projecting 22 wrs taken in the first 3 rounds. I think the record is 13 WRs taken in the first 2 rounds. And you’d think that the 3rd round would drop a lot with that many teams taking WRs early. The sweet spot is early in the 3rd round for WRs. There should be some talent available. I think we can get a talented guy at the end of round at wr and then trade up in the third and get another really talented wr if we wanted to. And this would be the year to do it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd have a similar list but broken up a bit (which means I probably won't get most of them)

2nd:

Walker
McMillan
Mitchell
Worthy
Legette
Wilson
Burton (would need the interviews to go well)

3rd:

McConkey
Polk
Pearsall
Rice
Thrash (curious to see how he times; he looks faster than the listed times for him)

Does that mean I wouldn't end up getting any of those guys I list as 3rd round guys? Yeah - probably. But I wouldn't be happy to see any of them taken in the 2nd so I'd just shrug and move along. Any one of them COULD be guys I move up into that 2nd round status (probably not Thrash), but I don't think it's terribly likely.

[Mecca]

I think Troy Franklin would be a monster in the Chiefs offense so.

[O.city]

I'm probably way to low on the guy.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm probably way to low on the guy.

I feel like everyone hollering for Franklin were in the same boat with Hyatt last year. They see it as a need and plug him in because he might be the best WR available in that spot. There are a lot of directions they might go that we won't see coming.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I feel like everyone hollering for Franklin were in the same boat with Hyatt last year. They see it as a need and plug him in because he might be the best WR available in that spot. There are a lot of directions they might go that we won't see coming.

Nah man, Franklin is much more polished, and just a better overall prospect.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Nah man, Franklin is much more polished, and just a better overall prospect.

I'm not comparing the two players, just the situation. We needed a WR in 23 and we went with a DE in the 1st with Hyatt still on the board. A lot of folks projected Hyatt to the Chiefs early in the draft season. Franklin is the choice this year.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I'm not comparing the two players, just the situation. We needed a WR in 23 and we went with a DE in the 1st with Hyatt still on the board. A lot of folks projected Hyatt to the Chiefs early in the draft season. Franklin is the choice this year.

I don't think Franklin is 100% BPA if he's available, but chances are if he's there, it's just a perfect fit in terms of need and skill set.

He's just a better prospect than Hyatt. That's the point I'm trying to make, which is why I think it's a different situation too.

[wachashi]

I don't think Brett Kollmann is a particularly good talent evaluator, so it's worth taking his opinions with a grain of salt, but his comp for Troy Franklin is...MVS. No joke. He says they are both slender-build vertical threats that struggle to play through contact and struggle in contested catch situations.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by wachashi

I don't think Brett Kollmann is a particularly good talent evaluator, so it's worth taking his opinions with a grain of salt, but his comp for Troy Franklin is...MVS. No joke. He says they are both slender-build vertical threats that struggle to play through contact and struggle in contested catch situations.

Saw him make that comparison, and I think it's a weak one.

Franklin is like a billionaire's MVS.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Saw him make that comparison, and I think it's a weak one.

Franklin is like a billionaire's MVS.

Agree. I've seen Jordan Addison, and I think that tracks a lot better.

He's tall and thin and fast and separates well. He's not going to fare well if a CB like Sneed is lined up against him and can get hands on, and he isn't going to make a living Moss-ing people.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Agree. I've seen Jordan Addison, and I think that tracks a lot better.

He's tall and thin and fast and separates well. He's not going to fare well if a CB like Sneed is lined up against him and can get hands on, and he isn't going to make a living Moss-ing people.

Addison had an actual route tree at his disposal, where Hyatt did not. Addison was clearly the most ready WR in the round one conversation last year, but this year I think he would have slipped out of the first round. I would put Franklin somewhere in between the two, personally. But Hyatt was a project coming out, and teams valuation of him, imo, was likely to hinge on how quickly they thought he could learn a proper offense.

[Mecca]

Brett Kollman also hated Rashee Rice, called it a terrible pick and said he thought Niko Remigio brought more to the table.