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Old 04-08-2024, 07:45 PM   #2
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The Power and Light District has been an insane success from a marketing and advertisement standpoint. Puts the city on the map. Whenever there is a Chiefs SB, Royals World Series, World Cup, etc. What do the TV networks show? Power and Light
Power & Light and the surrounding streets definitely seemed like the nicer part of the downtown when I visited.
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Old 04-08-2024, 07:52 PM   #3
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Power & Light and the surrounding streets definitely seemed like the nicer part of the downtown when I visited.
Power & Light and the Crossroads area south of it is a really nice and safe place. It really cleaned up downtown Kansas City.
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Old 04-08-2024, 08:54 PM   #4
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Power & Light and the Crossroads area south of it is a really nice and safe place. It really cleaned up downtown Kansas City.
Revolutionized downtown and created momentum for other areas to improve like the River Market and West Bottoms.
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Old 04-08-2024, 07:50 PM   #5
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Who knew having a place to film people looking like they're standing around watching tv in a big garage could put a city on the map?

No way the station would have worked for that.
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Old 04-08-2024, 08:02 PM   #6
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The economic reality of the Power & Light district:

During Power & Light's lifespan, through April 2022, Kansas City has picked up the tab on at least $167.1 million in total principal and interest payments, an average of $10.4 million a year, the Kansas City Business Journal determined through analysis of city financial reports.

Power & Light's debt service stems from $295 million in bonds the city issued in 2006 to help Baltimore-based The Cordish Cos. build the eight-block, $350 million project. But in all except one fiscal year — 2008, which covered Power & Light's opening — the cocktail of local and state sales, property and earnings tax revenues it pledged to pay off the bonds has fallen short.

[...]

In 2004, the City Council in 2004 approved Power & Light's development terms after reviewing a report from C.H. Johnson Consulting, which concluded that the district would more than cover its debt service using $619 million in new taxes over a 25-year period. To date, revenues available from the district for bond payments have totaled $104 million.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci....html?ana=wdaf
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Old 04-08-2024, 08:36 PM   #7
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If you've got some time to waste look into Chase Field with a lease up in 3 years with no plan in place (for all you its got to get done in 2 years people)

High level, PHX is worried about the downtown blight an abandoned stadium will bring to downtown and wants to work something out to keep up their downtown destination momentum but the Diamondbacks want a location with more residential/commercial combo thats more the trend (cough Legends cough) and have been pitching other location like Henderson, NV (for leverage)

Plus back in the original 3-1 vote that approved Chase as a downtown stadium one of the 'yes' votes was shot by the opposition. So it can always get worse

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...y/72898676007/
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:23 AM   #8
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If you've got some time to waste look into Chase Field with a lease up in 3 years with no plan in place (for all you its got to get done in 2 years people)

High level, PHX is worried about the downtown blight an abandoned stadium will bring to downtown and wants to work something out to keep up their downtown destination momentum but the Diamondbacks want a location with more residential/commercial combo thats more the trend (cough Legends cough) and have been pitching other location like Henderson, NV (for leverage)

Plus back in the original 3-1 vote that approved Chase as a downtown stadium one of the 'yes' votes was shot by the opposition. So it can always get worse

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...y/72898676007/
Is there a free version?
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:33 AM   #9
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Is there a free version?
Ugh I was just on that site yesterday no problem

Here's an SI version

https://www.si.com/mlb/diamondbacks/...a-stadium-deal
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:41 AM   #10
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If you've got some time to waste look into Chase Field with a lease up in 3 years with no plan in place (for all you its got to get done in 2 years people)

High level, PHX is worried about the downtown blight an abandoned stadium will bring to downtown and wants to work something out to keep up their downtown destination momentum but the Diamondbacks want a location with more residential/commercial combo thats more the trend (cough Legends cough) and have been pitching other location like Henderson, NV (for leverage)

Plus back in the original 3-1 vote that approved Chase as a downtown stadium one of the 'yes' votes was shot by the opposition. So it can always get worse

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...y/72898676007/
And that stadium is only 25 years old with a retractable roof, restaurant in the outfield, pool in center field... and there was so much drama over the tax at the time, a county employee got shot by a homeless man.
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:50 AM   #11
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And that stadium is only 25 years old with a retractable roof, restaurant in the outfield, pool in center field... and there was so much drama over the tax at the time, a county employee got shot by a homeless man.
I caught a game there last summer and it may have been the saddest sporting event I've attended and my dad used to take me to the NAIA basketball tournament at Kemper when I was a kid

I guess the roof isn't safe to open during any kind of attendance and the AC is definitely shot
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:59 AM   #12
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I caught a game there last summer and it may have been the saddest sporting event I've attended and my dad used to take me to the NAIA basketball tournament at Kemper when I was a kid

I guess the roof isn't safe to open during any kind of attendance and the AC is definitely shot
I sat in the upper deck during my first game there in July 2017, and it wasn't awful, but definitely on the warm side (plus more humid with monsoons)... it was far more comfortable at the Cards stadium for the Chiefs game when it was 105⁰ outside.

Didn't know that about the roof, yikes.
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Old 04-10-2024, 05:38 AM   #13
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And that stadium is only 25 years old with a retractable roof, restaurant in the outfield, pool in center field... and there was so much drama over the tax at the time, a county employee got shot by a homeless man.
Bought ourself a Championship tho.
**** the pool.
Watching Randy Johnson come out of left field as a closing pitcher.
Goosebumps.
That is a historical landmark.
I crossed home plate with Gonzos twins for crying out loud!
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:22 AM   #14
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The economic reality of the Power & Light district:

During Power & Light's lifespan, through April 2022, Kansas City has picked up the tab on at least $167.1 million in total principal and interest payments, an average of $10.4 million a year, the Kansas City Business Journal determined through analysis of city financial reports.

Power & Light's debt service stems from $295 million in bonds the city issued in 2006 to help Baltimore-based The Cordish Cos. build the eight-block, $350 million project. But in all except one fiscal year — 2008, which covered Power & Light's opening — the cocktail of local and state sales, property and earnings tax revenues it pledged to pay off the bonds has fallen short.

[...]

In 2004, the City Council in 2004 approved Power & Light's development terms after reviewing a report from C.H. Johnson Consulting, which concluded that the district would more than cover its debt service using $619 million in new taxes over a 25-year period. To date, revenues available from the district for bond payments have totaled $104 million.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci....html?ana=wdaf
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:16 AM   #15
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P&L seems like the type of area that out-of-towners frequently visit, but locals mostly avoid like the plague (not counting the arena). It's cool to check out once, but there's no need to go back a second time.
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