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Old 02-16-2020, 05:18 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:23 PM   #3
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Hopefully the OP gets Rompered for life this time...
You have any idea at all how many times this topic has been talked about on football, track sites? Rompered for just kicking about a topic TONS have kicked around.

You don't have ti talk about it so what's the problem?
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:19 PM   #4
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The success of black QBs isn't race driven. Most of the successful qbs this year are great runners. Last year, it was the year of the pocket qb. Mahomes, Brady, goff, brees, Rodgers... All do most of their damage in the pocket. Most of these QBs had bad years this season. Huge huge drop-off. I think the problem is that defenses overadjusted to stop passing games and left their run defenses exposed. That opened things up for athletic QBs. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust this offseason to stopping lamar, 49ers run o, Derrick Henry, etc.... Have a feeling running QBs will drop-off next year.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:31 PM   #5
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The success of black QBs isn't race driven. Most of the successful qbs this year are great runners. Last year, it was the year of the pocket qb. Mahomes, Brady, goff, brees, Rodgers... All do most of their damage in the pocket. Most of these QBs had bad years this season. Huge huge drop-off. I think the problem is that defenses overadjusted to stop passing games and left their run defenses exposed. That opened things up for athletic QBs. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust this offseason to stopping lamar, 49ers run o, Derrick Henry, etc.... Have a feeling running QBs will drop-off next year.
Wilson
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Prescott
Newton

....have been running all their life, that isn't going to change.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:54 PM   #6
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Wilson
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Prescott
Newton

....have been running all their life, that isn't going to change.
The point is that defenses are going to adjust to better stop athletic qbs and will go back to focusing on the run next year. Apart from Russell and mahomes, none of them were even close to the same level as Brady, brees, and Rodgers last year. This year the pocket passer took a big hit but I doubt that's a trend that will continue. Those guys are going to have to prove themselves with their arm and apart from Russell, all of those guys are not elite if you take their legs away. They might norm into more of a cam Newton who was effective enough throughout his career which bought them one big run, but was mostly second to third tier most of his career.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:43 PM   #7
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The rise of black NFL quarterbacks has been both swift and spectacular. Just over 40 years after Doug Williams became the first African American passer to be selected in the opening round of the NFL draft, black quarterbacks now occupy positions of prominence throughout professional sports’ most successful league.

Once dismissed as a group by the NFL’s longtime wrongheaded thinking based on skin color, black signal-callers have proven they possess the mettle, smarts and talent needed to thrive at the game’s most important position. They have been No. 1 overall draft picks. They have won league MVP awards. They have led teams to Super Bowl championships. One is even enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Talk about closing a gap.

And today’s superstar black passers – Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott – are continuing to build on the accomplishments of the trailblazers who kicked down the door for them. Let’s look at some of the most important moments in their climb to the top.

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But we can't talk about here, really? Everywhere else can, just not us....why?

Who is our greatest QB, can he run? Can Jimmy G run, nope!

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Old 02-16-2020, 05:50 PM   #8
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:19 PM   #9
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Whosyomomma, I usually like what you have to say, but shut up.

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Old 02-16-2020, 06:02 PM   #10
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Here he is taking third at the NCAA in the grueling 400 hurdles


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(26 contestants, 8 finalists; Q—49.93)
1. Jeshua Anderson (Washington State) ............... Fr................48.69
2. Reuben McCoy (Auburn)................................... Sr ...............48.71
3. Robert Griffin (Baylor) ....................................... Fr................49.55
4. Jussi Heikkilä' (South Carolina)......................... Sr ...............49.69
5. Nick Robinson (Texas A&M).............................. Sr ...............49.92
6. Terry Thornton (Hampton)................................. Sr ...............49.99
7. Kai Kelley (USC)................................................ Sr ...............50.45

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Old 02-16-2020, 06:06 PM   #11
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I don’t see the surprise? The sport has been predominately African American for decades due to generally athletic superiority over white counterparts. Mahomes isn’t the best example of a Black quarterback because he’s as much white as he is black, but if you have to break it down by race then yay?!? I see it as the league is shifting to more of a hybrid because Defensive lines are getting penetration and the Defenses are responding to a more offensive tilted league, and back and forth we go. I like the new crop of Quarterback, and I guess if it’s giving African American quarterbacks a greater opportunity due to their inherent athleticism then good stuff. Diversity is always welcome to evolve the culture and sport to a better place.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:10 PM   #12
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I don’t see the surprise? The sport has been predominately African American for decades due to generally athletic superiority over white counterparts. Mahomes isn’t the best example of a Black quarterback because he’s as much white as he is black, but if you have to break it down by race then yay?!? I see it as the league is shifting to more of a hybrid because Defensive lines are getting penetration and the Defenses are responding to a more offensive tilted league, and back and forth we go. I like the new crop of Quarterback, and I guess if it’s giving African American quarterbacks a greater opportunity due to their inherent athleticism then good stuff. Diversity is always welcome to evolve the culture and sport to a better place.
A guy who gets it,

We are see it, that big vacated area just behind the rushers and in front the receivers going out. All a QB has to do is get there and its 10-15 yards, with a mobile QB you have that open to you, with an Eli or Rivers or Brady...nope!
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:22 PM   #13
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A guy who gets it,

We are see it, that big vacated area just behind the rushers and in front the receivers going out. All a QB has to do is get there and its 10-15 yards, with a mobile QB you have that open to you, with an Eli or Rivers or Brady...nope!
DC are smart they will find a way to stop mobile QB.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:51 PM   #14
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DC are smart they will find a way to stop mobile QB.
I don't think so, just look at what Wilson has been doing for 8 seasons.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:43 PM   #15
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I don't think so, just look at what Wilson has been doing for 8 seasons.
Wilson also has elite level accuracy.
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