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Old 10-25-2020, 07:50 PM  
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It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.

Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:23 AM   #301
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They were a talented team in need of a consistent QB. It's a very similar situation to the one Manning found in Denver.

Also, helps when you drop a HOF QB on any roster.
This was always true.

I don't know how anyone could have watched this postseason and come to the conclusion that Brady carried this team. They barely beat a bad Washington team with a QB starting off the street, offense didn't lead a TD drive of longer than 40 yards against the Saints (bolstered by 4 turnovers caused by the defense), and Brady threw 3 second-half INTs against the Packers while the Bucs D held them to only 6 points off said turnovers.

Then add in last night where their defense held our offense to just 9 points total. Brady literally made one good throw all night and that was the TD to Gronk. He faced the least amount of pressure a QB has ever faced in the Super Bowl. He was not impressive, but their defense absolutely was.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:36 AM   #302
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What a laughable post^
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:37 AM   #303
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What a laughable post^
Next time just say: "I didn't watch any of the games; therefore, I don't know what I'm talking about" and we can both go our separate ways.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:39 AM   #304
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Would he have staged the comeback if he played for KC yesterday?
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:39 AM   #305
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Good luck just seems to follow Tom Brady. It’s weird.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:41 AM   #306
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Good luck just seems to follow Tom Brady. It’s weird.
He bolted a shit situation to go to a team that had a backup QB throw 33 TD’s, had the leading sack artist and other talented players on defense like the ones that made Patrick’s life miserable.

Put Patrick on that team and they might have been 19-0
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:42 AM   #307
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Would he have staged the comeback if he played for KC yesterday?
No QB in the history of the NFL would have been successful in Mahomes' situation yesterday. It is quite literally impossible to succeed when under that much duress.

Brady would have taken 10 sacks behind that line yesterday. As it was, he was only pressured on like 5 dropbacks and the dude barely broke 200 yards.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:44 AM   #308
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No QB in the history of the NFL would have been successful in Mahomes' situation yesterday. It is quite literally impossible to succeed when under that much duress.

Brady would have taken 10 sacks behind that line yesterday. As it was, he was only pressured on like 5 dropbacks and the dude barely broke 200 yards.
Would've taken more than good luck for sure
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:47 AM   #309
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He bolted a shit situation to go to a team that had a backup QB throw 33 TD’s, had the leading sack artist and other talented players on defense like the ones that made Patrick’s life miserable.

Put Patrick on that team and they might have been 19-0

The same guys who gave up the 4th most points in the NFL last year?
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:47 AM   #310
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Good luck just seems to follow Tom Brady. It’s weird.
Truth is, you need a fair bit of luck to win the Super Bowl. Mahomes needed quite a bit of it last season.

Brady's always had the fortune of playing on teams that make plays in big moments. The statistics bear it out too. He's not Superman out there strapping the team to his back.

He won a SB in 2014 off of a miracle goal-line INT that he had nothing to do with. Incredibly lucky.

He won in 2016 after going down 28-3 (a game in which he threw a pick-6 to contribute to the huge hole). If Shanahan just runs the ball, Ryan doesn't take a sack, and they can kick the game-sealing field goal.

He won in 2018 when his defense held the opponent to 3 points total (though his performance in the AFCCG against us two weeks prior WAS impressive).

I've already explained this year's postseason run. The defense has 100& been the strength of this team during the playoffs.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:49 AM   #311
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The same guys who gave up the 4th most points in the NFL last year?
Their QB had 42 combined INTs and fumbles. What are you not understanding about that?

Literally any of the top 5 QBs in the league would have been able to win the Super Bowl with them if they replaced Brady.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:54 AM   #312
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The defense is so great, they’d still require a top-5 QB to win it all?
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:58 AM   #313
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No QB in the history of the NFL would have been successful in Mahomes' situation yesterday. It is quite literally impossible to succeed when under that much duress.

Brady would have taken 10 sacks behind that line yesterday. As it was, he was only pressured on like 5 dropbacks and the dude barely broke 200 yards.
I don't think any other QB in the NFL today scores a single point playing behind that OL.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:58 AM   #314
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Mahomes scrabbled around for 500 yards. Thats scrabbling with the ball in his hand.

You dont go to a SB with 4 starting O-linemen sitting the bench and win..
500 ****ing yards.. Think about that for a second.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:00 AM   #315
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The defense is so great, they’d still require a top-5 QB to win it all?
It's a team sport so yes, they need a good QB to win the Super Bowl, as most teams do. They have a great defense, but it's not an all-timer like the 2015 Broncos or 2000 Ravens (and I never claimed it was).

The 49ers defense last season was better than the 2020 Buccaneers and even they didn't win the Super Bowl because Jimmy G wilted under pressure.
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