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Old 04-20-2024, 09:20 AM   Topic Starter
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How to Live to 120

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Old 04-20-2024, 09:29 AM   #2
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Old 04-20-2024, 09:29 AM   #3
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Old 04-20-2024, 09:44 AM   #4
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My wife’s great grandmother lived to 103 and at the end she hated every minute of it. At about 85 she had become the last of her friends and recent family she knew growing up.

By 95 she was depressed and just wanted to die. The closest people to her in the Senior facility that weren’t living vegetables were in their 70’s that she didn’t have anything in common due to age gap so she felt lonely all the time.
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Old 04-20-2024, 09:47 AM   #5
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My wife’s great grandmother lived to 103 and at the end she hated every minute of it. At about 85 she had become the last of her friends and recent family she knew growing up.
My worst nightmare would be to end up in a 70 year old body and have to live 40 years like that. No one wants a longer old age than their prime. What a ****ing horror....
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Old 04-21-2024, 09:16 PM   #6
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My worst nightmare would be to end up in a 70 year old body and have to live 40 years like that. No one wants a longer old age than their prime. What a ****ing horror....
The math of really old age starts to get a little crazy.

My wife's grandmother was married for 40 years - lost her first husband when she was about 60. Got remarried about 2 years later and lived to be 98. Her husband predeceased her by a couple years but she was married for essentially 35 years.

AFTER being married for 40.

She essentially lived three distinct lives. But man I dunno - in a lot of ways it just doesn't sound terribly appealing to me.
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Old 04-22-2024, 12:40 AM   #7
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My Dad turned 100 March 8. He was doing well until he was 94, but the last 6 years have been a struggle. He's now has to use a walker and gets really confused by intense dreams which he often can't distinguish from reality.

However, convince him that he was having a dream and he still tracks quite well otherwise. Course, I'm used to him being brilliant, which he no longer can even come close to.

(At 93, he was trying to teach me the ABC's of interpreting an EKG bc I have a prolapsed mitral valve).

I would be ok living to 120 if I'm as fit as Jack La Lanne was at 95.

The thing is, this guy isn't a nut. I have been following anti aging theory since graduate school and his dietary and supplement regimen bears a striking similarity to my own. Most of what he does is based on reasonable interpretation of current data.

His emphasis on EVO is a bit out of wack. But part of that is he sells it on his site for more than double the price of good, 3rd party tested EVO.

Not sure always having a fresh made harvest is worth what he's charging for it in terms of health benefit. Like most who hawk supplements, they're overpriced with the justification that they're using better sources.

I would REALLY like to see him test biomarkers of someone using his protocol with available stuff on the market vs his branded supplements in a double blind test. Funny how these guys NEVER do that.

Btw, there is a guy named David Sinclair who believes he can wind back the cellular clock. Basically, take a 70 yo person, do his molecular bio tricks on their DNA, and make them cellularly 25 or so

Sounds crazy, but he's doing it in mice. Says he might have a therapy for humans in 10 years or so. If this comes to pass, living past 120 will become common.

Of course, 80 yrs ago, the Nazis kept claiming they would cure cancer. They weren't bullshitting, they really believed it. They actually had good reason to think they could do it, bc they had a guy named Otto Warburg who won the nobel prize in 1939 or so for the discovery that cancer cells used glucose for respiration instead of O2.

Since German big pharma had invented a drug called metformin (which reduces blood sugar) in the mid 30s, they though it was just a matter of fiddling bf they could figure out how to starve the cancer.

Well, 80 yrs later, we haven't cured cancer. Basically bc they didn't foresee that cancer cells can switch respiration to other molecules (such as cyanide or sulfur) if glucose isn't available.

Bottom line, Sinclair probably faces hurdles he doesn't yet see to create a human therapy based on his work with mice. However, hanging around long enough for Sinclair's aging treatment to become a reality could pay off in spades.

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Old 04-20-2024, 10:15 AM   #8
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My wife’s great grandmother lived to 103 and at the end she hated every minute of it. At about 85 she had become the last of her friends and recent family she knew growing up.

By 95 she was depressed and just wanted to die. The closest people to her in the Senior facility that weren’t living vegetables were in their 70’s that she didn’t have anything in common due to age gap so she felt lonely all the time.
Get a hobby. Life is more than just people. Learn how to enjoy life on your own. Im already ready for old age lol
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Old 04-20-2024, 10:39 AM   #9
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Get a hobby. Life is more than just people. Learn how to enjoy life on your own. Im already ready for old age lol
You have no idea how terribly this comment is going to age...
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Old 04-20-2024, 10:51 AM   #10
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My wife’s great grandmother lived to 103 and at the end she hated every minute of it. At about 85 she had become the last of her friends and recent family she knew growing up.

By 95 she was depressed and just wanted to die. The closest people to her in the Senior facility that weren’t living vegetables were in their 70’s that she didn’t have anything in common due to age gap so she felt lonely all the time.
I was at a funeral once and noticed one of the Mr/Mrs plots showed the husband dying at I think 85 and the wife was like 104... imagine having a long, full life with your spouse and then living another two decades.

I've always thought, despite so many people who say 80+ years isn't enough and life is short, that I'd be ready to die at that point.... I might change my mind if I get there, but thinking I'm not even halfway to 90 is kind of mind boggling.
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Old 04-20-2024, 10:58 AM   #11
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Old 04-20-2024, 11:04 AM   #12
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I've always thought, despite so many people who say 80+ years isn't enough and life is short, that I'd be ready to die at that point.... I might change my mind if I get there, but thinking I'm not even halfway to 90 is kind of mind boggling.
Deep down I'd like to out live my wife so she doesn't have to die alone. Problem is she's a mix of Native/Mexican and Irish. If the Native/Mexican genes take over her two grandmother's lived beyond 100.

I ain't making that and wouldn't want to.
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Old 04-20-2024, 12:44 PM   #13
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I was at a funeral once and noticed one of the Mr/Mrs plots showed the husband dying at I think 85 and the wife was like 104... imagine having a long, full life with your spouse and then living another two decades.

I've always thought, despite so many people who say 80+ years isn't enough and life is short, that I'd be ready to die at that point.... I might change my mind if I get there, but thinking I'm not even halfway to 90 is kind of mind boggling.
My Father in Law passed away when he was 65...my mother in law just passed away last year at 85....

While she was a great mother in law...you could see the light in her eyes fade each year she was without him. And each time one of her close friends or family would pass, it would affect her even more.

If not for my kids, her only grandkids, I truly think she would have been lost.
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Old 04-20-2024, 12:29 PM   #14
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My wife’s great grandmother lived to 103 and at the end she hated every minute of it. At about 85 she had become the last of her friends and recent family she knew growing up.

By 95 she was depressed and just wanted to die. The closest people to her in the Senior facility that weren’t living vegetables were in their 70’s that she didn’t have anything in common due to age gap so she felt lonely all the time.
My aunt is about to turn 94.
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Old 04-21-2024, 11:13 AM   #15
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So, I take it that the only people that want to live to 120 are currently 119
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