Conspiracy, the Paranormal, the Unexplained and the Esoteric

[keg in kc]

Figure this would have a better chance of surviving in the Media Center than on the main page, and I'll be adding youtube and podcast links from time to time as I come across them, so it fits.

This has been something that's interested me from a very young age, all aspects of mysterious stuff, whether we're talking forgotten or forbidden archeology or civilization (Atlantis, pre-colombian exploration of america, etc), unexplained events (like Tunguska in 1908, the lost Roanoke Island colony, etc), paranormal events like ghosts, the study of ESP and that sort of thing, conspiracy (ranging from JFK to stuff like the perpetration of the drug war and the infilitration of the media by US intelligence) and, of course, UFOs (which to me means "unexplained" not "extraterrestrial" but that's a whole other topic).

Anything could show up, and everybody should feel free to add whatever they like. Just try to keep it as civil and respectful as possible. This is not intended to be a DC thread; it's as much for entertainment purposes as it is to solve all the world's mysteries.

**Although if anybody posts anything from Third Phase of Moon they should probably expect me to kick them in the balls.**

Few things I like to watch or listen to in no particular order (most of this can be found on itunes as well...):

The Paracast
Binall of America
The Gralian Report
The Paranormal Report
Dark City
Radio Misterioso
Open Minds (mostly their podcast)

That's it for now, just wanted to get this started. Been thinking about doing it for a while...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by notorious

I am a lucid dreamer with an active mind, so sleep paralysis is usually a living nightmare for me.


When it happens, it's almost always paranormal-like. That's why I think that a lot of people think they see something when it's really their minds manifesting things in a half-asleep state.

Jesus dude. This sounds terrifying.

I hate to make you talk about it but would you mind sharing any specifics of what you experienced?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Numbah One

Skinwalker Ranch is apparently a movie which there is no ****ing way I can watch now.

The movie is ****ing terrible. Don't watch.

Not even for free. It's total $3it.

Do some googling and research what you can for free. That alone is 1,000 times more creepy than the 'sploitation film...

[Rausch]

Thread Conspiracy - all Keg requests - all the time...

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by notorious

I am a lucid dreamer with an active mind, so sleep paralysis is usually a living nightmare for me.


When it happens, it's almost always paranormal-like. That's why I think that a lot of people think they see something when it's really their minds manifesting things in a half-asleep state.

I definitely agree that sleep paralysis is the culprit in a great many of those cases, but some of these supposed abductions come with physical proof such as implants with highly irregular chemical makeups and other strange features.



ThaVirus, if there is a subject in particular that interests you, tell me what it is and I'll try to find something on it for you.

[keg in kc]

Caught some Darkness reruns. Have to say I like Schraeder better there than on Coast to Coast, but I'd guess that's because there's enough episodes that I can sift through the shows and pick what I'm interested in.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I totally get it, there is only so much one can believe or atleast try to wrap ones head around at a given time.

Nonetheless, I am really pleased with the conversation that took place here tonight... you, me, Jerm and anyone else that stuck their neck out tonight is kind of a hero of mine.

Simply being willing to discuss these things without poop jokes being thrown in is a milestone afaic.

Same to you man...cheers.

Always love talking about this...for one because I've always been fascinated/obsessed and because I really do believe this is where the real advancements in science where come from.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Same to you man...cheers.

Always love talking about this...for one because I've always been fascinated/obsessed and because I really do believe this is where the real advancements in science where come from.

I'm more cynical. I think the real advancements in science and technology come primarily from war.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm more cynical. I think the real advancements in science and technology come primarily from war.

Well see I'm different than a lot lol...I believe a majority of the tecnologocial advancements we've seen have come from extraterrestrials.

I used to work with a guy at a jail that was retired Air Force and after I gained his trust, he kinda opened up to me a bit. He didn't say too much but I do remember him telling me that if we knew the technology the military and other govt entities possessed we'd be shocked.

[DMAC]

Recently read Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock.

It makes a good case for a lost advanced civilization that was wiped out 12K or so years ago. Great read, I highly recommend for anyone following this thread. And he's coming out with a sequel this year.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Well see I'm different than a lot lol...I believe a majority of the tecnologocial advancements we've seen have come from extraterrestrials.

I used to work with a guy at a jail that was retired Air Force and after I gained his trust, he kinda opened up to me a bit. He didn't say too much but I do remember him telling me that if we knew the technology the military and other govt entities possessed we'd be shocked.

That I believe. A lot of the technology we in the public see is based on developments from the 50s and 60s, so there's definitely stuff going on behind the scenes that would blow our minds. Can't wait so see some of it in 2025.

However, one valid question raised about advanced technology is that if the military has all this crazy stuff, then why don't they use it. Because we never see any evidence of it. The answer of course being they do, it just takes years after the fact for us to hear about it. And we mostly hear about the stuff that didn't work as well as they expected, like the non-lethal microwave stuff they tried to use in Iraq. ADS I think it was called.

We've definitely had directed energy weapons for decades, since the 80s. Don't think we're at the star trek phaser point yet, but it's probably not that far off. I'm sure our aircraft technology would blow our minds, as well. I do think it's entirely possible that some UFO sightings that look impossible technologically are actually us testing and/or using stuff that's next-next-gen. But even the stuff that works that we do hear about, like stealth tech during the first gulf war, is based on developments from years ago (that was all done in the 70s as I recall, based on research done much earlier than that...).

I just tend to think that we developed most of it ourselves. My guess is that anything we've recovered may give us some ideas, but is probably too advanced and too alien for us to understand or replicate. Sort of like if you handed a smart phone to a pygmy. They could probably figure out how to make it do some things, at least until the battery died, but assuming they didn't already know how to speak english, they wouldn't be able to understand anything they saw, or what the actual functions of the device are. And if they managed to get the cover off, they wouldn't have a clue what all the parts did (hell, most of us 'civilized' people wouldn't for that matter) and they certainly couldn't make their own cell phones. They just don't have the technology or industry for it.

So while the idea of reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology is romantic, I'd assume that's how it would go for us if we found any kind of advanced craft of extraterrestrial origin. It isn't like trying to reverse engineer captured German tech in the 40s or stolen Russian tech in the 80s. This is a completely different species from a completely different biosphere that's had completely unrelated evolution and uses a language that can't possibly have any analog on Earth.

There's only a few scenarios that I can think of where reverse engineering would work:

- they're not very far ahead of us technologically and everything they do is recognizable to us.
- they're far advanced but are for whatever reason working with us
- they're not extraterrestrial, or if they are, they're off-planet remnants of an earlier spacefaring Earth civilization that we have no historical record of, but their language(s) are recognizable if still foreign (perhaps even roots of ours).

But that's just throwing out ideas. Who the hell knows...

[Bowser]

So I just took the time to type out all my UFO, ghost, and conspiracy stories. I forgot that I don't have cookies enabled, so I let the page expire and it all just disappeared when I submitted. Son of a bitch.

[keg in kc]

Podcasts featuring a couple of things we've mentioned but didn't go into.

Diatlov Pass: http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/me...dent-24928514/

Todd Sees (don't think we've mentioned this yet but it's a good story): http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/me...todd-24988391/

The paracast episode that introduced me to Skinwalker Ranch: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/n...nner-and-chip/

Relatively recent paracast with George Knapp that delves a bit into all the stuff he's done, from lazar and area 51 to skinwalker ranch: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/a...-george-knapp/

Earlier paracast with George Knapp that covers most of the same ground, but still good: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/m...-george-knapp/

And just a personal interest of mine, paracast about co-host Chris O'Brien's mammoth book on his decades of cattle mutilation research, "Stalking the Herd": http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/n...david-perkins/

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So I just took the time to type out all my UFO, ghost, and conspiracy stories. I forgot that I don't have cookies enabled, so I let the page expire and it all just disappeared when I submitted. Son of a bitch.

That's what you get for trying to post from a private tab while you surf porn!

Not that I'd know anything about that.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's what you get for trying to post from a private tab while you surf porn!

Not that I'd know anything about that.

That porn statement is PURE conspiracy!

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Numbah One

This sounds awesome.

Quote:
A feature film in in production titled, Patient Seventeen, which explores Doctor Roger Leir's claims to remove highly advance implants, nanotechnology microchips imbedded by aliens, non-humans monitoring our earth.

Discover his world of abductions, scalar wave transmissions, and a program to study or manipulate the human race. Director and investigative filmmaker Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell, will be hosting a private pre-premiere of the work at the 2015 International UFO Congress Film Festival in Arizona, February 2015

Just FYI, Corbell is going to be on Coast to Coast tomorrow night with George Knapp discussing Patient Seventeen.