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Old 08-21-2023, 12:36 PM   #2
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Cant expect perfection. What we are looking for is safer across the board. Accidents will always happen. The rate of accidents, especially fatal ones is what we are trying to prevent.


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Driverless cars will eventually be the norm, and of course many people who grew up with manually-driven cars will be skeptical and fearful even after such fear is unwarranted.
Instead of bumping this old thread, I actually considered starting a new one in D.C.
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Old 08-21-2023, 12:44 PM   #3
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In theory driverless cars would reduce the douchey accidents like tailgating.
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Old 08-21-2023, 12:50 PM   #4
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In theory driverless cars would reduce the douchey accidents like tailgating.
When driverless cars drive 3 miles an hour on icy streets instead of 30 mph, commuters are going to scream and are going to go back to their own dangerously driven cars.
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Old 08-21-2023, 12:54 PM   #5
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Actually, if I owned a fleet of driverless cars, I'm not sure I would even rent them out in snowy, icy conditions.

If somebody rear-ends your vehicle, the amount you get paid doesn't cover all the losses. Loss of use of vehicle, employee time to get vehicle repaired etc.
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Old 08-21-2023, 12:47 PM   #6
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The test should be whether driverless cars are safer than human driven ones.

But driverless cars could have one tenth the fatality rate and many people would find that unacceptable.
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:41 PM   #7
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Instead of bumping this old thread, I actually considered starting a new one in D.C.
It's weird that some people think this is a political issue.
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Old 08-21-2023, 04:13 PM   #8
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It's weird that some people think this is a political issue.
If you can't see how it could be, that is on you.
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Old 08-21-2023, 07:21 PM   #9
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If you can't see how it could be, that is on you.
It SHOULDN'T be a political issue. If the data shows it saves lives and reduces accidents then we should further investigate its usage and expand r & d of this industry.
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Old 08-22-2023, 12:40 PM   #10
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It's weird that some people think this is a political issue.
There are political factors in many things; most things, actually. There are gray areas when it comes to things like this. That's why sometimes I hate that we have to post certain things in DC. Sometimes, I would like a good, vibrant discussion with many different viewpoints. But I know that certain subjects will get relegated to DC no matter what.
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Old 08-21-2023, 01:37 PM   #11
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Interesting bump. It seems like a lot of AI technologies (driverless cars, ChatGPT, etc.) are able to go from 0% awesome to 95% awesome pretty quickly, but that final 5% is super important yet difficult to achieve.

We've come a long way since this thread in terms of designing cars that can stay in their lanes and not hit anything in front of them, but things are still a little iffy in terms of being able to literally never have an active driver.

I still think we'll get there eventually, but it may still be a bit before we start removing steering wheels from cars.
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Old 08-21-2023, 01:49 PM   #12
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Interesting bump. It seems like a lot of AI technologies (driverless cars, ChatGPT, etc.) are able to go from 0% awesome to 95% awesome pretty quickly, but that final 5% is super important yet difficult to achieve.

We've come a long way since this thread in terms of designing cars that can stay in their lanes and not hit anything in front of them, but things are still a little iffy in terms of being able to literally never have an active driver.

I still think we'll get there eventually, but it may still be a bit before we start removing steering wheels from cars.
Well said
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:02 PM   #13
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Interesting bump. It seems like a lot of AI technologies (driverless cars, ChatGPT, etc.) are able to go from 0% awesome to 95% awesome pretty quickly, but that final 5% is super important yet difficult to achieve.

We've come a long way since this thread in terms of designing cars that can stay in their lanes and not hit anything in front of them, but things are still a little iffy in terms of being able to literally never have an active driver.

I still think we'll get there eventually, but it may still be a bit before we start removing steering wheels from cars.
It really does seem like its 100% of cars need to be driverless or it will just always have issues.
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:35 PM   #14
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It really does seem like its 100% of cars need to be driverless or it will just always have issues.
And we probably need to start designing roads with driverless in mind. Relying on visual cues gets...messy.
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Old 08-21-2023, 07:11 PM   #15
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And we probably need to start designing roads with driverless in mind. Relying on visual cues gets...messy.
Well sure, if we had special roads that only had driverless cars and were specifically designed for driverless cars.

And bikes and pedestrians were either prohibited, or were at least required to carry transmitters...

That would make it an awful lot easier.

But I don't think it's viable to wait until for that to happen.

I've actually wondered if Japan or South Korea might not get driverless cars on a large scale before the US just because they have a more business friendly environment.
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