Would you trade for more day 3 picks?

[RunKC]

Looking at Brett Veach's history the last 3 years has shown one of his best attainable assets: finding value on day 3.

Sneed
Smith
Pacheco
Watson
Danna
Gray

All very good value picks. I would include Fenton, Williams and Allegretti as functional starters/valuable bqckups. This far I've been impressed with Coburn and believe Conner will be a good one as well.

Would you consider loading up on day 3 picks? The avenues could be interesting. You could get some from Chris Jones (as well as a 1st or 2nd), trade down in the 2nd or 3rd rd? Maybe trade a guy like Clyde for a 6th or 7th?

We won't always have an ammo of picks but I think we should put more bullets in that chamber bc aside from last year Brett Veach's best results have come from day 3 of the draft.

[O.city]

Once you get past about the mid 5th I don’t think there’s a whole lot of difference between said players and Udfa so I’d probably not

[Hoover]

I wouldn't make a points to do that. More than anything, I think the Chiefs success on day three is a testament to the work done by the scouting department, and the fact that the Chiefs have certain traits they look for in players. What's shocking is that more teams are not as good at it.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I wouldn't make a points to do that. More than anything, I think the Chiefs success on day three is a testament to the work done by the scouting department, and the fact that the Chiefs have certain traits they look for in players. What's shocking is that more teams are not as good at it.

Agreed. I think if we can flip a guy that isn't getting snaps, especially close to deadlines, it's valuable to do it, but it's always been so.

I think what surprises me, more than other teams being bad at it, is that it doesn't scale. Late round guys have all the flags or nothing physically. REALLY hard to find value. As you move up the ladder, in the first round there are dudes that SHOULD be easier to project. And at the rate he's hitting late rounders, the dude should NEVER miss in rounds 1-3. EVER.

I think the truth is somewhere in the realm of find a guy with a base level of physical competency and is hungry - then turn that dude over to the coaches. I'm totally guessing, but I think the success rate is more on the staff than Veach - but Veach could sure **** it up if him and the staff didn't have a good healthy reciprocative relationship.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Agreed. I think if we can flip a guy that isn't getting snaps, especially close to deadlines, it's valuable to do it, but it's always been so.

I think what surprises me, more than other teams being bad at it, is that it doesn't scale. Late round guys have all the flags or nothing physically. REALLY hard to find value. As you move up the ladder, in the first round there are dudes that SHOULD be easier to project. And at the rate he's hitting late rounders, the dude should NEVER miss in rounds 1-3. EVER.

I think the truth is somewhere in the realm of find a guy with a base level of physical competency and is hungry - then turn that dude over to the coaches. I'm totally guessing, but I think the success rate is more on the staff than Veach - but Veach could sure **** it up if him and the staff didn't have a good healthy reciprocative relationship.

I've been saying for quite awhile that the organizational stability is a real advantage. Veach knows what Andy and Spags need as well or better than they do.

[kccrow]

I think there's a lot of value in 4th round picks. When you start getting into the 5th, 6th, and 7th then not so much. There I think you're looking at a lot of positional value: RBs, reserve OL, #2/3 TE, STs guys. Most of the time you're not pulling a starter out of the last 3 rounds.

Danna has been a nice role player and you're finally getting good starter reps in his contract year, but purposefully turning guys for late-round picks in hopes that's what you get probably isn't a great practice.

For all those guys you mentioned, you also have to realize there are a lot of misses. Kinnard (probably), Kaindoh, Powell, Keyes, Fenton (he sucked for all but about 1/3 of a season so argue it if you want), O'Daniel, Thompson, Watts, Tremon Smith, McKenzie, etc..

Trey Smith is an exception in that he had a 1st-2nd round grade and was a medical guy. And that might be a type you target once per draft on day 3 if you can.

All that said, if it isn't giving Veach a pick in rounds 1-4, it probably isn't worth a whole lot other than a shot in the dark for a reserve/special teamer.

[BossChief]

Id rather see them go up and go get Bowser or Suamataia/Alt.