***Official 2024 STL Cardinals Thread ***

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - the appear to have finally gotten it through their idiot skulls that extending Goldschmidt is a horrifying idea.

If they're smart, he's playing 1b in Memphis everyday to prepare him for 2025. And if they do that and let him focus on hitting, he'll be a strong player for them.

But they're very stupid. So they'll probably have him playing 3b or something. Maybe CF.

Walker will be the new closer in Memphis

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - the appear to have finally gotten it through their idiot skulls that extending Goldschmidt is a horrifying idea.

If they're smart, he's playing 1b in Memphis everyday to prepare him for 2025. And if they do that and let him focus on hitting, he'll be a strong player for them.

But they're very stupid. So they'll probably have him playing 3b or something. Maybe CF.

Goldschmidt is a slow starter. When he starts carrying the team in June/July the fears of extending him will subside. Mozeliak will extend him like he did every other 38 year old career Cardinal. Then he'll get a jump on trading Walker and send him to the Mets or some shit for Drew Gilbert.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Goldschmidt is a slow starter. When he starts carrying the team in June/July the fears of extending him with subside. Mozeliak will extend him like he did every other 38 year old career Cardinal. Then he'll get a jump on trading Walker and send him to the Mets or some shit for Drew Gilbert.

Good point. By the time July rolls around and they're already 12 games back in the WC he'll write Goldy a check for his senior years.

[DJ's left nut]

So you're saying that spending the entire offseason working on his OF defense so he could be roughly average out there at the cost of his offensive potential was a bad choice?

A guy in my fantasy baseball league put it best:

"how in the world do you look at Edman, Donovan, Gorman and Walker, decide that 3 of them are outfielders, one of them is an infielder and get them ALL wrong?"

I mean that's just brutally on point. Edman - GG shortstop. Donovan -- GG infielder. Walker - obvious long-term 1b. Gorman - clearly not a 2b but has the physical tools to be a very strong LFer. And we got every single one of those decisions backwards. We took the 3 best bets to be successful on the IF and stuck them in the OF, then took the one guy who very clearly is NOT a 2b and hammered that square peg into the round hole until he ALSO lost the plot offensively.

This team couldn't be doing more to hurt its young players on purpose.

Get this - Marmol in the presser last night says Matz pitched okay. Velo was good, stuff was good - he attributed it to "The D-Backs are just really good against lefthanded pitching..."

Do you think he even KNOWS what hand Zack Thompson throws with? When he sent him out there to ****ing die and wreck the last of any confidence he's ever had, do you think he considered "The D-Backs are really good against lefties" as he tossed him into that shredder? No, of course he didn't.

Because this team actively sabotages every young player it has. It couldn't put these guys in worse positions to succeed on purpose.

The whole ****ing organization is stupid and rotten and lazy and arrogant. I hate this team so goddamn much.

[DJ's left nut]

Nolan Arenado has ONE homer in his last 50 games.

Thank God he didn't opt out, eh?

[DJ's left nut]

"We're trying to be competitive and not just get 3 million fans through the gates..."

{shuts down Latin American Academy}

Tell me, John - how do you reconcile those two things? If you're trying to win, how does shutting down an international pipeline help? Oh I know why you did it - it's not free and ultimately the fans don't notice it until the players get up at this level. So it's money spent now for a return 8 years from now and that's not how you guys do things.

You can spend money on an Andrew Kittredge salary dump instead and then tell the fans "We're trying to win!" and hope to keep your ticket sales up.

It's just so damn obvious how little this team cares about winning BEYOND what it means at the gate. They want to win if it draws fans. If losing drew fans, they'd be fine with that as well.

This team has zero aspirations for actually being a competitive ballclub. They want to sell tickets and winning is a necessary component of that. That's all.

[Perineum Ripper]

It really sucks that the front office doesn’t give a shit about the product they put on the field. I have made it to the point in my life I can afford tickets to a shit load of games, and to take my dad. Make memories, enjoy time together, but I will not give that club my money

[BigRedChief]

I hope the BFIB located in St. Louis are paying attention.

The Athletic interviewed more than 40 baseball executives for their inaugural ranking of the top 10 front offices in Major League Baseball.

The Cardinals didn't receive a single vote. #STLCards #ForTheLou https://t.co/B7oX4O3ZsJ pic.twitter.com/Fwmi6NARQQ

— Augie Nash (@AugieNash) April 24, 2024

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I hope the BFIB located in St. Louis are paying attention.

The Athletic interviewed more than 40 baseball executives for their inaugural ranking of the top 10 front offices in Major League Baseball.

The Cardinals didn't receive a single vote. #STLCards #ForTheLou https://t.co/B7oX4O3ZsJ pic.twitter.com/Fwmi6NARQQ

— Augie Nash (@AugieNash) April 24, 2024

What should worry you is that this is a statement of how little respect there is for the Cardinals leadership throughout MLB.

So it means that when you're dealing with them, you treat them like your idiot nephew and offer him 3 beads for his Snickers bar because you know there's a chance he might say yes. And because he IS your idiot nephew, he probably will. After he gets that 4th bead out of you and you 'reluctantly' pull the trigger.

But ultimately I can't imagine this is anything DeWitt doesn't already know. He has to see that these guys ****ing suck at building a baseball team.

He simply doesn't give a shit.

[Marcellus]

Getting beat down by Jordan Montgomery today is going to make this even more painful.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Getting beat down by Jordan Montgomery today is going to make this even more painful.

I do find it interesting that the Cardinals chose a day that they were facing a lefty without premier velocity to finally pull the plug on Walker.

It suggests that they realize there truly is no matchup that favors him. He really can't hit anything right now.

[BigRedChief]

Maybe the STL fans are finally fed up. But, it was a school night game.

good morning to everyone except John Mozeliak and Bill DeWitt😭

Is this rock bottom in St. Louis? pic.twitter.com/G3cuneXXKg

— Cardinals Talk (@theredbird_way) April 24, 2024

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Maybe the STL fans are finally fed up. But, it was a school night game.

good morning to everyone except John Mozeliak and Bill DeWitt😭

Is this rock bottom in St. Louis? pic.twitter.com/G3cuneXXKg

— Cardinals Talk (@theredbird_way) April 24, 2024

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...02404230.shtml
Tuesday, April 23, 2024
Start Time: 6:45 p.m. Local
Attendance: 32,875
Venue: Busch Stadium III
Game Duration: 2:37
Night Game, on grass


Announced attendance -32,875 There's no way that's even close.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...02404230.shtml
Tuesday, April 23, 2024
Start Time: 6:45 p.m. Local
Attendance: 32,875
Venue: Busch Stadium III
Game Duration: 2:37
Night Game, on grass


Announced attendance -32,875 There's no way that's even close.

I'd be surprised if that's 14,000.

The good news, to whatever extent they still care, is that the Cardinals know exactly how many came through the turnstiles.

The message is being delivered. It's just a question as to whether or not DeWitt is willing to listen to it at all.