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Old 11-13-2019, 06:20 PM  
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Patrick Mahomes and a defense is all we need.
Look at the 49ers and the patriots for simple examples.

The only two players maybe worth the buy on our team is Kelce and hill, but we cannot keep or pay both, especially once we pay Mahomes. There is no way Mahomes will be taking a Tom Brady contract.

Think about it, whoever wins the super bowl typically has an above average defense. Patrick Mahomes will make our weapons look better than they are, therefore all we truly need is a game changer like hill. Let kelce go, take the patriot approach. We need a strong defense that can win us 3 and outs and let the mvp take the field and eat up clock and score touchdowns.

Andy Reid, we do not need to be the colts of Peyton Manning, all we need is Mahomes, hill (for now) and then an above average defense. We will stay competitive every year and actually have a chance at winning the super bowl year after year.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:22 PM   #2
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Screw that. That's what gets you Aaron rodgers and Peyton manning turning into human pinball machines. Our offense is our strength. Build around that. Ask our defense to not be terrible. Good DCs can do that. Spags better do that and if he can't, send him packing.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:25 PM   #3
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Screw that. That's what gets you Houston and Tamba turning into wasted sack machines. Our defense is our strength. Build around that. Ask our offense to not be terrible. Good coaches can do that. Reid better do that and if he can't, send him packing.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:26 PM   #4
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Screw that. That's what gets you Aaron rodgers and Peyton manning turning into human pinball machines. Our offense is our strength. Build around that. Ask our defense to not be terrible. Good DCs can do that. Spags better do that and if he can't, send him packing.
What?? Patrick Mahomes is the best qb in the nfl, at the very least argued to be the best, he will be paid like it.

That leaves us little $$. Do you want an O-line to protect the best quarterback in football? That takes $$. You want to build around our offense like hill and kelce and even more stars? That takes $$. There’s this thing called the cap.

Your legit saying build around our offense, and just hope our dc can write up schemes for under payed players to over perform. That is ridiculous.

Look up why the patriots are so successful year after year, it goes completely against what you are suggesting
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:30 PM   #5
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Yes let’s let go the best TE in the NFL....
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:34 PM   #6
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Pay your offense playmakers and draft your defense. I've stated this several times. Your defense doesn't need to have the experience so much and younger means faster and cheaper.
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Look at the 49ers and the patriots for simple examples.

The only two players maybe worth the buy on our team is Kelce and hill, but we cannot keep or pay both, especially once we pay Mahomes. There is no way Mahomes will be taking a Tom Brady contract.

Think about it, whoever wins the super bowl typically has an above average defense. Patrick Mahomes will make our weapons look better than they are, therefore all we truly need is a game changer like hill. Let kelce go, take the patriot approach. We need a strong defense that can win us 3 and outs and let the mvp take the field and eat up clock and score touchdowns.

Andy Reid, we do not need to be the colts of Peyton Manning, all we need is Mahomes, hill (for now) and then an above average defense. We will stay competitive every year and actually have a chance at winning the super bowl year after year.
Ah, Tom Brady has always had a great TE until this year. He's also always had a good receiving RB. He's never needed elite WRs.

Also, we've already proven that the offense doesn't nearly as well with just Hill. The offense runs best with a good/great running and receiving RB, Kelce, Hill, and at least one other speed receiver. Doesn't have to be a 4.3 guy, but a bigger target with sub 4.5s speed.

And I think that the Patriots defense last year was ranked 20th or something like that. What has always made Patriots' defenses exceptional in the playoffs is their situational awareness. They might not always rack up the most impressive stats during the regular season (as they have this year), but they are always prepared for specific situations at critical moments in games. The pick by Butler against the Seahawks being the most obvious one that comes to mind right now.

They knew that Seattle liked that play down near the goal-line, and they practiced defending it as late as that morning in the hotel lobby.
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What?? Patrick Mahomes is the best qb in the nfl, at the very least argued to be the best, he will be paid like it.

That leaves us little $$. Do you want an O-line to protect the best quarterback in football? That takes $$. You want to build around our offense like hill and kelce and even more stars? That takes $$. There’s this thing called the cap.

Your legit saying build around our offense, and just hope our dc can write up schemes for under payed players to over perform. That is ridiculous.

Look up why the patriots are so successful year after year, it goes completely against what you are suggesting
The Patriots have almost always had one of the best OLs in the league year, in and year out. This year they traded away one of the best LTs in the game, and then had three injuries to other linemen, or they would still have a top 10 OL.

You want a SB team, you need a really good OL.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:41 PM   #9
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Yes let’s let go the best TE in the NFL....
Kelce is probably the 2nd best tight end in the nfl, behind George Kittle.

Is it really the end of the world to say we shouldn’t resign a 30 year old tight end, and spend that money elsewhere while looking into the draft while we have him currently signed? Like come on dude....

Play smart with our money, not emotional
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Kelce is probably the 2nd best tight end in the nfl, behind George Kittle.

Is it really the end of the world to say we shouldn’t resign a 30 year old tight end, and spend that money elsewhere while looking into the draft while we have him currently signed? Like come on dude....

Play smart with our money, not emotional
Curious. Do fast, big, great hands, clutch TEs grow on trees where you live?
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Curious. Do fast, big, great hands, clutch TEs grow on trees where you live?
Exactly! Stupid hot takes make people look stupid.
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I forgot; Tom Brady has also always had an exceptional slot receiver.
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Curious. Do fast, big, great hands, clutch TEs grow on trees where you live?
Can I say no? Like I know what you are saying, I also 100% agree with your post #8. My point being is if we keep Kelce on another contract, pay hill, and then pay Mahomes, how much money do we have left to pay for an O-line to give us help with rushing the ball and protecting our qb? Then after that, how much money do we have left over for our defense? I’m in no way saying Kelce isn’t bad, and won’t be good in a few years, it’s a matter of damage control, is it worth it? And I simply say no. Get a low cost proven veteran (reliable) rookie running backs to run the ball, hill (pay him) Mahomes (pay him) after that, bolster the offensive line and get a defense that can get us through the dance and get us the ball back when we need it most and put it back in Mahomes hands
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The only two players maybe worth the buy on our team is Kelce and hill, but we cannot keep or pay both, especially once we pay Mahomes.
Kelce 2020 salary: $10.5 million

Hill 2020 salary: $17.6 million

Chiefs 2020 cap room after cutting Sammy Watkins: $38 million

You buffoon
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Pay your offense playmakers and draft your defense. I've stated this several times. Your defense doesn't need to have the experience so much and younger means faster and cheaper.

Ding!...Ding!....Ding! We have a winner!
Too bad KC ****ed that up last off season. Going forward that should be the plan.
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