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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 02-16-2022, 02:49 PM   #166
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I try to stay away from trading down just because I don’t see Veach ending up with 8-10 players at the end of the draft.
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Old 02-16-2022, 02:54 PM   #167
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I try to stay away from trading down just because I don’t see Veach ending up with 8-10 players at the end of the draft.
Yeah, I don't see him trading down. Like I said before, his penchant is for trading up or away, not down.
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Old 02-16-2022, 03:27 PM   #168
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I keep running mocks without any trade downs and I keep ending up with either Kaiir Elam or Brisker. Then a guy like Sanders in the 2nd.

I really think this draft is setup for a 1st round DB and a 2nd round DE.
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Old 02-16-2022, 04:19 PM   #169
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Old 02-16-2022, 04:20 PM   #170
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What sites do you all use for mock drafts?
For sims, I use Pro Football Network and The Draft Network. Most are using those 2, I believe.
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Old 02-16-2022, 05:45 PM   #171
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For sims, I use Pro Football Network and The Draft Network. Most are using those 2, I believe.

The PFF draft sim is excellent as well. So is the NFL mock draft database site.

I like using a lot of different sites. Good to see different rankings of guys.

Links to all of these should be in the OP if you open the spoiler link.
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Old 02-16-2022, 06:47 PM   #172
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Gotta be honest, some of these drafts are incredible. Literally, in-credible. I guess I could just about see some of these playing out. I don't think I share everyone's love of Damone Clark. I think I'd swing for a WR slightly earlier.
Let's work on getting you more excited.



The only thing about Clark is that these guys all have him ranked way too low IMO. He's going to be a 1st rounder, I'm betting my life savings of $0.03 on it.
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Old 02-16-2022, 09:30 PM   #173
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Kansas City Chiefs
Garrett Wilson
WR, Ohio State
62.

Kansas City Chiefs
Cameron Thomas
EDGE, San Diego State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Sam Williams
EDGE, Ole Miss
102.

Kansas City Chiefs
Justyn Ross
WR, Clemson
133.

Kansas City Chiefs
Eyioma Uwazurike
IDL, Iowa State
189.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ty Chandler
RB, North Carolina
230.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jeremiah Gemmel
LB, North Carolina
240.

Kansas City Chiefs
Isaac Taylor-Stuart
CB, USC
248.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ben Stille
EDGE, Nebraska
Ok, HOLY SHIT! One could only hope! 1st HOME RUN draft ever?
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EDGE, San Diego State
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LB, Wyoming
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TE, UCLA
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:16 AM   #175
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Let's work on getting you more excited.



The only thing about Clark is that these guys all have him ranked way too low IMO. He's going to be a 1st rounder, I'm betting my life savings of $0.03 on it.
I could be persuaded!
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:58 AM   #176
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Jameson Williams in the 1st = instant wood
I would be really shocked if he was available at 30. The most impressive receiver prospect since Randy Moss imo. A game wrecker.
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:28 AM   #177
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Let's work on getting you more excited.



The only thing about Clark is that these guys all have him ranked way too low IMO. He's going to be a 1st rounder, I'm betting my life savings of $0.03 on it.

He flashes downhill and has great closing speed and power. No doubt.

Didn’t see a lot of coverage reps on that video, but the interception down the left sideline was impressive.

Still, it’s hard for a LB to get into the first. Lloyd and Dean look like locks. With the depth at DE, CB, and WR, it’s hard for me to see.

DE
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Karlaftis
Johnson II
Ojabo
Trevon Walker

CB
McDuffie
Gardner
Stingley
Elam

WR
Williams
Burks
Dotson
London

Throw in Neal, Ekwonu, and Cross at T, a few guards, Linderbaum, Lloyd and Dean, and we’re over 20 picks already. Without getting to QB or DT or S.

I think you’d get heavy odds and big payout on Clark being a first-round pick in actuality.
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Old 02-17-2022, 01:40 PM   #178
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For sims, I use Pro Football Network and The Draft Network. Most are using those 2, I believe.
Sweet, checking those out now
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:36 PM   #179
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Interesting 4 rounder. I traded down to 33 because I felt like I could still get Cam Thomas there, Johnson was off the board. As the picks fell, it was good value to double up on what are probably our biggest areas of weakness. I decided to try to make them strengths moving forward. I wouldn't hate this strategy come the draft, honestly.

KC
33.
Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State-prototype edge rusher, productive and athletic.

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KC
62.
Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi-all the tools are there; some red flags off the field but could be a steal here.

KC
70.
John Metchie III
WR Alabama-may not help much in '22, but #1 potential moving forward.

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KC
94.
Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati-big, fast, physical 'X' receiver

KC
134.
Tyler Goodson
RB Iowa-just a good, solid running back all around.
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Old 02-18-2022, 09:31 PM   #180
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Interesting 4 rounder. I traded down to 33 because I felt like I could still get Cam Thomas there, Johnson was off the board. As the picks fell, it was good value to double up on what are probably our biggest areas of weakness. I decided to try to make them strengths moving forward. I wouldn't hate this strategy come the draft, honestly.

KC
33.
Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State-prototype edge rusher, productive and athletic.

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KC
62.
Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi-all the tools are there; some red flags off the field but could be a steal here.

KC
70.
John Metchie III
WR Alabama-may not help much in '22, but #1 potential moving forward.

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KC
94.
Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati-big, fast, physical 'X' receiver

KC
134.
Tyler Goodson
RB Iowa-just a good, solid running back all around.
That's an interesting draft. Being able to double down and get Williams in Round 2 seems perfect if it falls that way. Mafe also works on that double-down, I think.
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