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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Stewie · 09-17-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

It’s about being able to tell advertisers you’re in a market

And there's the rub. TV ratings are a sham.

|Zach| · 09-17-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

And there's the rub. TV ratings are a sham.

They are not a sham you are just taking the narrow view.

ChiefsCountry · 09-17-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

IMO, schools with less than 25K enrollment are screwed.

Enrollment has nothing to do with anything of this.

Stewie · 09-17-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Enrollment has nothing to do with anything of this.

Really? So, Arizona State has nothing over TCU?

ChiefsCountry · 09-17-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Really? So, Arizona State has nothing over TCU?

You are so clueless when it comes to all of this, its not worth arguing.

Stewie · 09-17-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You are so clueless when it comes to all of this, its not worth arguing.

OK. You win. I get info from the attorney that is involved with the SEC and the ACC, but please, enlighten me.

ChiefsCountry · 09-17-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

OK. You win. I get info from the attorney that is involved with the SEC and the ACC, but please, enlighten me.

Everything you have said has been ****ing stupid. From enrollments to tv ratings don't matter. Like I said you don't have a clue.

**Saul Good** · 09-17-2011, 04:45 PM

Notre Dame is screwed. They only have 8,000 undergrads. They aren't going to get into a superconference.

BWillie · 09-17-2011, 04:47 PM

What happens to the rest of the Big East? Looks like Pitt & 'Cuse to the ACC is a done deal....I would think that the Big 10 would see the super conference era is coming and swoop them up. I think they would be a great fit for the Big 10. Surely Pitt and 'Cuse would want to come to the Big 10 if they could, right?

**Saul Good** · 09-17-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

The point in all this mess is, "we want TV eyes!" It's apparent that TV is going to align schools. Who watches Northwestern football? Sorry, but in the scheme of things, NW doesnt' matter.

IMO, schools with less than 25K enrollment are screwed.

Kansas fans love to set the bar just under wherever Kansas is. KU has 26K. If they had 21K, it would be any school with less than 20K.

bowener · 09-17-2011, 04:52 PM

Thanks for starting this thread. I took a shit and hid it somewhere in the other one... forgot where and now its starting to get bad.

Braincase · 09-17-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Kansas fans love to set the bar just under wherever Kansas is. KU has 26K. If they had 21K, it would be any school with less than 20K.

Search Engine much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kansas

Try just north of 30k.

Mojo Jojo · 09-17-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

Search Engine much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kansas

Try just north of 30k.

Sure if you include the Med School...if you want to play the total enrollment game...University of Phoenix and DeVry should be a huge draw for sports.

Braincase · 09-17-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

Sure if you include the Med School...if you want to play the total enrollment game...University of Phoenix and DeVry should be a huge draw for sports.

Don't forget ITT. Don't really know what their athletic department budgets are like, though.

BmoreBills · 09-17-2011, 05:41 PM

Big Ten - Legends
Michigan
Nebraska
Iowa
Michigan State
Northwestern
Minnesota
KANSAS
KANSAS STATE

Big Ten - Leaders
Wisconsin
Illinois
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Indiana
NOTRE DAME
MISSOURI

I know that Notre Dame refuses to cooperate, but with the news that Pitt is going to the ACC and Iowa State may go to the Big East, this makes the most sense to me.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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09-17-2011, 04:45 PM	#203
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	Notre Dame is screwed. They only have 8,000 undergrads. They aren't going to get into a superconference.
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09-17-2011, 04:47 PM	#204
BWillie El Gato Gordo Loco BWillie's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Earth	What happens to the rest of the Big East? Looks like Pitt & 'Cuse to the ACC is a done deal....I would think that the Big 10 would see the super conference era is coming and swoop them up. I think they would be a great fit for the Big 10. Surely Pitt and 'Cuse would want to come to the Big 10 if they could, right?
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bowener BAMF! bowener's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2007	Thanks for starting this thread. I took a shit and hid it somewhere in the other one... forgot where and now its starting to get bad.
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09-17-2011, 05:41 PM	#210
BmoreBills Changing minds! BmoreBills's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD	Big Ten - Legends Michigan Nebraska Iowa Michigan State Northwestern Minnesota KANSAS KANSAS STATE Big Ten - Leaders Wisconsin Illinois Ohio State Penn State Purdue Indiana NOTRE DAME MISSOURI I know that Notre Dame refuses to cooperate, but with the news that Pitt is going to the ACC and Iowa State may go to the Big East, this makes the most sense to me.
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