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Old 11-04-2020, 09:59 AM   #2
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If I remember a lot of the WR's he made look good never were able to have any success after they left, including Branch.

Yeah, that is true but that happens often in the NFL. Most people forget that the average NFL career is just 3 years. It’s difficult to remain good or great for an extended period of time. Typically any good franchise will keep you around until you’re past your prime and then let you go so it’s not strange when a guy is unable to match his previous success in a new place.

We saw that with some WRs who left NE and others who ended up in NE (like Chad Johnson and Sanu).
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:06 AM   #3
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Yeah, that is true but that happens often in the NFL. Most people forget that the average NFL career is just 3 years. It’s difficult to remain good or great for an extended period of time. Typically any good franchise will keep you around until you’re past your prime and then let you go so it’s not strange when a guy is unable to match his previous success in a new place.

We saw that with some WRs who left NE and others who ended up in NE (like Chad Johnson and Sanu).
Branch was doing fine until he was hurt.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:03 AM   #4
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Bill has a down turn during a very different/strange year due to covid. I'm guessing he's going to come back stronger than ever next year.

What he needs is a QB first. Maybe, he swings a trade for Ryan or Stafford to get his team going again. He's got to do something and he most likely will reload.

Sort of like the Warriors.
What in his history do you base this statement off of? He has two winning seasons and one playoff appearance total without Brady. He has an overall losing record without Brady under center.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:22 AM   #5
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What in his history do you base this statement off of? He has two winning seasons and one playoff appearance total without Brady. He has an overall losing record without Brady under center.
His overall losing record you speak of is over 20 years ago. I'm sure he's learned a lot over that span and also he will learn from this year. The loss of so many starters on that team right before the season started was to much for the organization to overcome this year.

The bottom line though is he needs a QB under center that can perform. Bill isn't some miracle worker but if he can get a good QB he can sure as heck coach them up. If he can get this position upgraded, starters returning after covid, and some top of the round draft picks he certainly has a chance to turn things around next year.
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:32 AM   #6
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If all it took was a really good or great QB, Dan Marino would have multiple rings.

Fran Tarkenton would have multiple rings.

Dan Fouts would have a ring.

Warren Moon would have multiple rings.

Steve McNair would have a ring.

Aaron Rodgers would have multiple rings.

And there are plenty of really average QBs that have rings. Like Jeff Hostetler. Phil Simms. NICK FOLES.

Trent freaking Dilfer.

And about another dozen of these kinds of JAGs.

And let's not forget that Tom Brady didn't exactly light the NFL on fire for his first few years. As good as that Patriots team was outside of QB, you could've put any JAG QB behind center and won a ring.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:13 PM   #7
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Yeah the Patriots never got their asses handed to them like this game under BB.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:16 PM   #8
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Yeah the Patriots never got their asses handed to them like this game under BB.
Their whole season this year is similar to this game.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:22 PM   #9
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Their whole season this year is similar to this game.
When was the last time they lost by 35 to a division rival with 1st place in the division on the line? It would have been more had the Saints not pulled back in the second half.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:24 PM   #10
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When was the last time they lost by 35 to a division rival with 1st place in the division on the line? It would have been more had the Saints not pulled back in the second half.
When was the last time a Tom Brady-led team was 2-5?

I mean are we really arguing who sucks more?
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:43 PM   #11
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Yes.

At least that's what I'm doing.

I might be breaking the rules, but I'm ****ing doing that shit right here and right now.

**** all things Cheatriot.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:21 PM   #12
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:23 PM   #13
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Can't we just hate them both?
I thought that was a given!!!
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Old 11-09-2020, 06:52 AM   #14
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Old 11-09-2020, 06:53 AM   #15
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Also, the Pats suck because Cam is washed, a bunch of their players opted out or left in free agency, their actual cash spending has been pretty low the last few years, and BB has drafted terribly in recent years.
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