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Old 03-15-2024, 10:35 AM   #2
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I'm not excited by this pick but the Raiders can't roll with what they have at QB. I gambled and thought I might juuust sneak Penix, but hey ho, was always a long shot.

Raiders select Bo Nix, QB, Oregon
Totally worth it in the 2nd.
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:37 AM   #3
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Totally worth it in the 2nd.
Kinda my thinking. I don't like him much but I'd roll the dice there.
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Old 03-15-2024, 11:39 AM   #4
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Totally worth it in the 2nd.
They'd never do it, but if you're the Raiders and you want Nix, you should probably trade up to 32 and get the 5th year to do it.

These guys are gonna have a bit of a learning curve and the Raiders, in signing Minshew, are tacitly acknowledging that.

Makes pick 32 a little more interesting with Nix and Pennix potentially being guys teams like but don't love enough to take in the top 15.
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Old 03-15-2024, 11:57 AM   #5
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They'd never do it, but if you're the Raiders and you want Nix, you should probably trade up to 32 and get the 5th year to do it.

These guys are gonna have a bit of a learning curve and the Raiders, in signing Minshew, are tacitly acknowledging that.

Makes pick 32 a little more interesting with Nix and Pennix potentially being guys teams like but don't love enough to take in the top 15.
I just think it's hard to justify pushing for that 5th year on a guy you only really want after the top talent is gone. That extra year feels pretty good if it's a guy you're fairly confident in, I don't think that's Nix.
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Old 03-18-2024, 08:06 AM   #6
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I just think it's hard to justify pushing for that 5th year on a guy you only really want after the top talent is gone. That extra year feels pretty good if it's a guy you're fairly confident in, I don't think that's Nix.
If you're not that confident in Nix, you probably shouldn't be taking him in the early 30s.

If he's good enough to take at 44. If you're happy to take him in the early 2nd, you should probably be willing to give a 3rd rounder and take him in the 1st. Especially if learning curve, not raw ability, is your concern.
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Old 03-18-2024, 08:24 AM   #7
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If you're not that confident in Nix, you probably shouldn't be taking him in the early 30s.

If he's good enough to take at 44. If you're happy to take him in the early 2nd, you should probably be willing to give a 3rd rounder and take him in the 1st. Especially if learning curve, not raw ability, is your concern.
Except I don't think I need to take him late in the 1st. I get him where I got him, keep my picks to build round him as best I can. If he's Jalen Hurts, great, if he blows, oh well, hopefully the next guy has a little more talent around him when I ditch Nix.
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Old 03-18-2024, 09:51 AM   #8
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Except I don't think I need to take him late in the 1st. I get him where I got him, keep my picks to build round him as best I can. If he's Jalen Hurts, great, if he blows, oh well, hopefully the next guy has a little more talent around him when I ditch Nix.
It's not about need. It's about the value of the 5th year option - that's all.

Now if you're the Raiders and your position is "hey, that's a problem for 4 years from now; meanwhile I need that 3rd rounder to fix problems I have right this very second..." then I get it.

But man, QBs are just so damn expensive. There's the possibility of that 5th year option have $10-$20 million in surplus value.

It'd be an interesting study really - what's the 'cash value' of a 3rd round pick on average. And what's the cash value of the average 5th year option season?
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