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Old 02-16-2020, 01:00 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:07 PM   #3
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Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:25 PM   #4
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Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.
Aaron Rodgers is another one (before he got old). He's the guy that I always felt was most similar to Mahomes. Really good scrambling ability mixed with insane arm talent.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:33 PM   #5
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Aaron Rodgers is another one (before he got old). He's the guy that I always felt was most similar to Mahomes. Really good scrambling ability mixed with insane arm talent.
And accuracy, and he's short for a QB. I think that he's barely over six feet tall. He still showed that he has most of that arm left against San Fran in the NFCCG
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:35 PM   #6
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Theres absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out the successes of black QB's, but it always feels like theres another angle to these discussions with you, Ubeja...
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:38 PM   #7
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Theres absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out the successes of black QB's, but it always feels like theres another angle to these discussions with you, Ubeja...
It does have that separate but equal feel to it all
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:48 PM   #8
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It does have that separate but equal feel to it all
It does seem to be true that blacks, in general, have a higher density of fast twitch muscle fiber

But Ubeja seems to see that as some kind of overall superiority, he's pretty fascinated by it IMO
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:26 PM   #9
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Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith (before his leg exploded), and Matt Stafford are all effective scrambling QBs. With the exception of Josh Allen, you might not call them "electric" but they definitely make plays with their feet.

Alex Smith in particular ran like a goddamn gazelle. It's the one part of his game that I really really admired.
Being effective is a lot different than....



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Old 02-16-2020, 01:22 PM   #10
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:30 PM   #11
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If you have been in America for more than 5-6 generations. You're a mutt, if you like it or not
This. I've met only like two or three other people that aren't all of European Descent, and a lot of Americans have at least some Native American blood in them if we're just talking about the whites. And one of those was an actual Hatfield. Unless you have nothing but blonde or red hair, and only blue or green eyes, you have either African, or Asian DNA. And with less than five percent of the planet just having true blond or red hair and the same amount being with green or blue eyes, and not all of them overlapping, very few people are white white, and I don't really care, and so I'm not looking that shit up
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:30 PM   #12
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MANY MANY years ago, SI ran a story about why black athletes run and jump better than other racial groups. The picture that headlined the story was Spud Webb winning the dunk competition.

The story attributed it to Africans averaging a muscular insertion point significantly farther from the joint than most other groups (thus increasing torque around a lever). Even almost 30 years ago that story got bombed by the PC police for being racist.

However, anyone that's played pickup basketball knows that black guys generally run the floor faster than white guys. It's not always true. But, if a team of black guys confront a team of white guys in a pickup game, I'll guarantee you the black guys are going make the white guys prove they can run with them.

Would be nice to discuss this without someone screaming racism.

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Old 02-16-2020, 01:52 PM   #13
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MANY MANY years ago, SI ran a story about why black athletes run and the jump better than other racial groups. The picture that headlined the story was Spud Webb winning the dunk competition.

The story attributed it to Africans averaging a muscular insertion point significantly farther from the joint than most other groups (thus increasing torque around a lever). Even almost 30 years ago that story got bombed by the PC police for being racist.

However, anyone that's played pickup basketball knows that black guys generally run the floor faster than white guys. It's not always true. But, if a team of black guys confront a team of white guys in a pickup game, I'll guarantee you the black guys are going make the white guys prove they can run with them.

Would be nice to discuss this without someone screaming racism.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:31 PM   #14
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:32 PM   #15
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