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Old 09-29-2022, 08:14 AM   #2
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I'll have to look up the actual procedure but there's a way that you can hack the accessibility options and make it call CMD, from there you can create a new user and nuke Windows back to default.

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https://www.technibble.com/bypass-wi...ogons-utilman/
You are the man thanks!
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Old 09-29-2022, 11:13 PM   #3
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I'll have to look up the actual procedure but there's a way that you can hack the accessibility options and make it call CMD, from there you can create a new user and nuke Windows back to default.

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https://www.technibble.com/bypass-wi...ogons-utilman/
That page is 10 yrs old. While that capability still technically exists, those instructions won't work for Win10/11 without additional steps. Because Windows Defender in Win10/11 now blocks that. You can likely still make it work with Win10/11, but you'd have to do some Safe Mode stuff to make it work.

An easier solution would likely be to use Rufus to create a bootable USB Windows installer flash drive. All you need is a USB flash drive that's at least 8GB or greater. The Rufus app will reformat the USB drive, download your choice of Windows 8/10/11 automatically, and make the USB drive bootable.



You then insert the USB drive into the system, and boot up tapping the F12 key. Select boot from USB device. Which will launch the normal Windows installer.

That allows the hard drive to be completely separate from the Windows installer, so you'll have no issues reformatting and reinstalling.
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Old 09-30-2022, 08:30 AM   #4
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That page is 10 yrs old. While that capability still technically exists, those instructions won't work for Win10/11 without additional steps. Because Windows Defender in Win10/11 now blocks that. You can likely still make it work with Win10/11, but you'd have to do some Safe Mode stuff to make it work.

An easier solution would likely be to use Rufus to create a bootable USB Windows installer flash drive. All you need is a USB flash drive that's at least 8GB or greater. The Rufus app will reformat the USB drive, download your choice of Windows 8/10/11 automatically, and make the USB drive bootable.



You then insert the USB drive into the system, and boot up tapping the F12 key. Select boot from USB device. Which will launch the normal Windows installer.

That allows the hard drive to be completely separate from the Windows installer, so you'll have no issues reformatting and reinstalling.
Interesting. I just used that hack like three months ago.

Admittedly, I don't use Windows myself. I just support my family members so I really only deal with it when something blows up.
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Old 09-30-2022, 10:34 AM   #5
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Interesting. I just used that hack like three months ago.

Admittedly, I don't use Windows myself. I just support my family members so I really only deal with it when something blows up.
Wait...do I need to download the Windows exe file first? Sorry I was thinking Rufus installed that on the flash drive, but it makes senses if I need to get it on my computer first and then Rufus pulls it form there?
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Old 09-30-2022, 11:25 PM   #6
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Interesting. I just used that hack like three months ago.

Admittedly, I don't use Windows myself. I just support my family members so I really only deal with it when something blows up.
Starting in Win10 20H2 and later they implemented Windows Defender to block that. I'm pretty sure you can boot into Safe Mode with Networking and still make it work probably. Or remove the drive and connect it to another machine. As long as there are no managed group policies to block it. Like any reasonable IT managed outfit would. We bitlocker all our mobile devices so that isn't an issue. Bitlocker can be a bitch though. Dumb users can trigger it just being dumb.
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Old 09-30-2022, 10:30 AM   #7
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That page is 10 yrs old. While that capability still technically exists, those instructions won't work for Win10/11 without additional steps. Because Windows Defender in Win10/11 now blocks that. You can likely still make it work with Win10/11, but you'd have to do some Safe Mode stuff to make it work.

An easier solution would likely be to use Rufus to create a bootable USB Windows installer flash drive. All you need is a USB flash drive that's at least 8GB or greater. The Rufus app will reformat the USB drive, download your choice of Windows 8/10/11 automatically, and make the USB drive bootable.



You then insert the USB drive into the system, and boot up tapping the F12 key. Select boot from USB device. Which will launch the normal Windows installer.

That allows the hard drive to be completely separate from the Windows installer, so you'll have no issues reformatting and reinstalling.
Thanks, but I'm not getting an option to choose windows anywhere? The field that says "download" on your screen only gives me the "select from file" option. Also for device it only shows the flash drive. Seriously thanks for the help from both of you!
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Old 09-30-2022, 11:51 AM   #8
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Thanks, but I'm not getting an option to choose windows anywhere? The field that says "download" on your screen only gives me the "select from file" option. Also for device it only shows the flash drive. Seriously thanks for the help from both of you!
You need to click the button that says "Select" and choose the Download option.

If you already had your own .iso Windows installer file, you could select the actual installer file with that option. But you haven't downloaded Windows yet. So, choose download and see if that works for you. Once you actually start the process, it will then prompt you for which version of Windows you would like to install.
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Old 09-30-2022, 01:45 PM   #9
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You need to click the button that says "Select" and choose the Download option.

If you already had your own .iso Windows installer file, you could select the actual installer file with that option. But you haven't downloaded Windows yet. So, choose download and see if that works for you. Once you actually start the process, it will then prompt you for which version of Windows you would like to install.
That's what's giving me the issue...there is no download option for me..it will only let me choose from a local folder.
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Old 09-30-2022, 01:49 PM   #10
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You need to click the button that says "Select" and choose the Download option.

If you already had your own .iso Windows installer file, you could select the actual installer file with that option. But you haven't downloaded Windows yet. So, choose download and see if that works for you. Once you actually start the process, it will then prompt you for which version of Windows you would like to install.
Oh never mind! Looks like I had the wrong version.
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Old 09-30-2022, 11:26 PM   #11
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Oh never mind! Looks like I had the wrong version.
Did you get it working?
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