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Old 04-03-2020, 06:19 AM  
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Chiefs and Chris Jones working towards a long term deal. .
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Old 04-03-2020, 11:36 AM   #46
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My understanding is that it is not enough. To bring Breeland back, most likely have to sign and trade Jones. Breeland is probably looking at 10+, so 5 in cap space ...
It's enough if they give him more than a one year deal. Give him 3 years for $25 million. Give him a $9 million signing bonus and league minimum this season. Cap hit would be around $4 million.
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:32 PM   #47
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Chiefs could have probably $40 million in cap space by:

Restructure (salary into signing bonus) Clark and Mathieu
Cut LDT after June 1
Extend Chris Jones and Travis Kelce (though both players may not want that)
As much as I'd be fine with cutting LDT, could we really replace him with anyone better this year?
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:36 PM   #48
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Breeland isn't getting 10 a year, Chris Harris barely got that.
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:42 PM   #49
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Kelce will not sign an extension until Kittle does just an FYI
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:47 PM   #50
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As much as I'd be fine with cutting LDT, could we really replace him with anyone better this year?
This. I'm doubtful that there's an upgrade replacement for LDT out there this season. And Andy's blocking schemes can be pretty complex; is there a OG out there that can pick up his schemes that quickly, especially if there's no OTAs/abbreviated TC this season?

As for LDT himself, I don't think we can really judge his abilities on his performance for most of last season. It was his first season back from breaking his leg; it was always going to take most of of or all the season for him to get back to his pre-injury form. It'd be interesting to see how he performed in the playoffs vs. the first 8 weeks of the season to see how he trended. I'm betting he was significantly better in the playoffs.

Which could mean that he could be solid in the upcoming season as his confidence in his leg has grown.
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:50 PM   #51
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This. I'm doubtful that there's an upgrade replacement for LDT out there this season. And Andy's blocking schemes can be pretty complex; is there a OG out there that can pick up his schemes that quickly, especially if there's no OTAs/abbreviated TC this season?

As for LDT himself, I don't think we can really judge his abilities on his performance for most of last season. It was his first season back from breaking his leg; it was always going to take most of of or all the season for him to get back to his pre-injury form. It'd be interesting to see how he performed in the playoffs vs. the first 8 weeks of the season to see how he trended. I'm betting he was significantly better in the playoffs.

Which could mean that he could be solid in the upcoming season as his confidence in his leg has grown.
I think they like LDT. Another year healthy, hope Rankin can come back healthy. iIf you can upgrade center, LDT is now your worst linemen. and thats a pretty damn nice place to be.
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:57 PM   #52
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:58 PM   #53
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Maybe. Eventually Mahomes $40 million contract needs to be paid and we are going to lose essential players. Thats our life as fans going forward. But.............we have Patrick ****ing Mahomes. Life is good!
By that time we will be replacing guys like Kelce, Fisher, Schwartz and others with younger, cheaper options.
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Old 04-03-2020, 01:00 PM   #54
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I think people are kinda missing that we're 2-3 years away from having to use high picks on OT's.
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Old 04-03-2020, 01:10 PM   #55
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I think people are kinda missing that we're 2-3 years away from having to use high picks on OT's.
We’re also 2-3 years away from Mahomes having a really big cap hit.
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I think people are kinda missing that we're 2-3 years away from having to use high picks on OT's.
And we arent really in "dire" need of IOL either. It would be a very nice upgrade, but we basically won the superbowl with what we have except we lost wis. We will get Rankin back at some point and i expect him to start at LG.
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Old 04-03-2020, 01:26 PM   #57
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And we arent really in "dire" need of IOL either. It would be a very nice upgrade, but we basically won the superbowl with what we have except we lost wis. We will get Rankin back at some point and i expect him to start at LG.
Just because that exact formula worked last year that doesn't mean it will work again. What happens when interior pressure gets Mahomes injured again, except this time it's for more than 2 games? Or what happens when Mahomes has an off game, and the interior OL is getting their shit pushed in as always so we're not able to lean on the run game?
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Just because that exact formula worked last year that doesn't mean it will work again. What happens when interior pressure gets Mahomes injured again, except this time it's for more than 2 games? Or what happens when Mahomes has an off game, and the interior OL is getting their shit pushed in as always so we're not able to lean on the run game?
You can't have elite players everywhere, the biggest hole on the team is coverage LB. it's why every damn team we play throws to their backs and TE's over and over.
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Old 04-03-2020, 01:34 PM   #59
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Just because that exact formula worked last year that doesn't mean it will work again. What happens when interior pressure gets Mahomes injured again, except this time it's for more than 2 games? Or what happens when Mahomes has an off game, and the interior OL is getting their shit pushed in as always so we're not able to lean on the run game?
In 31 games, Mahomes has proven his off game is usually good enough to win. Case in point would be the last game we saw.
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You can't have elite players everywhere, the biggest hole on the team is coverage LB. it's why every damn team we play throws to their backs and TE's over and over.
This. Worst case Rankin and Wis are a wash imo. Rankin came in and did work for a guy who had only been in the system a few weeks. Wis was a street mid season free agent.

And they got their S pushed in in the super bowl, but so did green bay and everyone else who played san fran in the playoffs. I'm not taking a first second or probably even third round center/guard unless hes a truly elite prospect. Like running back the value just isnt there. In fact im personally 5x more likely to go running back before guard, or center. The demand just isnt there to take them high.
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