***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Do people in this thread think that Covid-19 doesn't have the potential to cause significant issues in our country?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Good because you are part of the reason for panic because you are ****ing dumb.

I said the mortality rate is dropping, you then spouted off on some completely other dumb shit path like you usually do.

So feel free to stfu

So Italy having no room in some of their hospitals is... media hype?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

And the Swine Flu was far more deadly to children/younger adults than COVID-19, yet there wasn't the mass closure of schools/colleges, cancellation of sporting events, etc.

Based on what? Total fatalities?
People aren't concerned specifically about total deaths at this point, they are concerned about the implications if it infects a large portion of our population. Hence closing schools and sporting events, suspending non mandatory travel

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

So Italy having no room in some of their hospitals is... media hype?

That is where the huge problem is going to come, not enough hospital space. That mixed with the people that are going to go to work with it, there is probably going to be some serious spread, I assume most people will end up getting it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Do people in this thread think that Covid-19 doesn't have the potential to cause significant issues in our country?

Oh I absolutely think it has the potential to. Every American should be doing their part to try and help the progression of the virus.

I can't tune this out of my mind though. It's literally driving me crazy. And no I'm not going around hoarding items like a madman. It's taking a toll on my work productivity - my sleep. Everything.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Donger

"Not really."

Is this sarcasm? Or just being an asshole?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Based on what? Total fatalities?
People aren't concerned specifically about total deaths at this point, they are concerned about the implications if it infects a large portion of our population. Hence closing schools and sporting events, suspending non mandatory travel

Not to mention it could cause a recession. Ive lost so much money this past month it makes me sick

[Donger]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Is this sarcasm? Or just being an asshole?

The former. I was making fun of an idiot disputing simple numbers and math.

[dirk digler]

Fauci today testifying.

“The seasonal flu we deal with every year has a mortality of 0.1 percent. The stated mortality overall of this when you look at all the data, including China, is about 3 percent. It first started off as 2 and now 3. I think if you count all the cases of minimally symptomatic or asymptomatic infection, that probably brings the mortality down to somewhere around 1 percent, which means this is ten times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”

“People always say, well, the flu, you know, the flu does this, the flu does that. The flu has a mortality of 0.1 percent,” said Fauci. “This has a mortality of ten times that. That’s the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game in preventing this.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Do people in this thread think that Covid-19 doesn't have the potential to cause significant issues in our country?

Unfortunately yes, some still do think that.

[007]

Originally Posted by SupDock

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"We have therefore made the assessment that #COVID19 can be characterized as a pandemic"-@DrTedros #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/JqdsM2051A

— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) March 11, 2020

So now we're all gonna die

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fauci today testifying.

Exactly this. Anyone claiming that this is "just the flu" is a butt-****ing moron and should be treated as such.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fauci today testifying.

So far it's not spreading as fast or wide as the flu. So there is that.... No one said don't be prepared. But this panic, and people are PANICKING is reeruned.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

So far it's not spreading as fast or wide as the flu. So there is that.... No one said don't be prepared. But this panic, and people are PANICKING is reeruned.

Who is panicking?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Exactly this. Anyone claiming that this is "just the flu" is a butt-****ing moron and should be treated as such.

Anyone claiming it doesn't have the potential to have the EXACT same mortality rate of the flu in the end are butt ****ing reeruned.

Calm your tits