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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-07-2022, 05:53 PM   #856
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We only have Snead under contract after this year, though…and the AFCW went out and vastly upgraded their passing games. I’m sure is a position that will get a couple new pieces.
Sneed we will probably pay. We should have the cap room, and as a player who can play inside, outside, and blitz all at a high level he has a lot of extra value over a strictly boundary corner.
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Old 04-07-2022, 05:55 PM   #857
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Even if you take Ojabo out of the equation. I'm taking Karlaftis and I'd be okay with Jones at 30. He may not be an exciting pick because he's "just a NT" but that defensive line would be well on its way to becoming better.

Clark - Jones - Jones - Karlaftis

Clark is there in name only because I'm grabbing another DE in the 2nd round to start subbing him out immediately.
You just want to say "Keeping up with the Jones's!" Any time one of them makes a play.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:11 PM   #858
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Sneed we will probably pay. We should have the cap room, and as a player who can play inside, outside, and blitz all at a high level he has a lot of extra value over a strictly boundary corner.
I think Sneed CAN be excellent but his play last year was massively overated by people here.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:03 PM   #859
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For staying put, I’d be excited for this draft.

The idea of moving up 5-10 spots by using a combo of this years and next years picks is growing on me. I wonder how far we could get if we traded next years first and the 50 pick this year.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:43 PM   #860
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For staying put, I’d be excited for this draft.

The idea of moving up 5-10 spots by using a combo of this years and next years picks is growing on me. I wonder how far we could get if we traded next years first and the 50 pick this year.
I like where your head is at. The only thing is I am not a believer in mafe
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Old 04-08-2022, 09:41 AM   #861
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I like where your head is at. The only thing is I am not a believer in mafe
I’ve heard that from a couple people. What are your thoughts as to why you don’t think he will be good? I see a classic 4-3 DE with a good first step that finishes plays against the pass and run. I think in this system, he can develop into a monster that’s similar to Hali with a better first step and really good speed In pursuit.

He also had the highest pass rush grade of anyone at senior bowl week.

I don’t get the attempted narrative that he wouldn’t be a good fit in KC, but maybe I’m missing something.
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Old 04-08-2022, 10:45 PM   #862
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I’ve seen enough mock drafts where we give up a ton of value for Jameson Williams. Jesus Christ it’s getting old.
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Old 04-08-2022, 11:02 PM   #863
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29.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
KC
30.

Jahan Dotson
WR Penn State
KC
50.

Travis Jones
DT Connecticut
KC
62.

Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi
KC
94.

Nick Cross
S Maryland
KC
103.

Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State
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121.

Jelani Woods
TE Virginia
KC
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Tyquan Thornton
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Old 04-09-2022, 02:03 AM   #864
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I’ve heard that from a couple people. What are your thoughts as to why you don’t think he will be good? I see a classic 4-3 DE with a good first step that finishes plays against the pass and run. I think in this system, he can develop into a monster that’s similar to Hali with a better first step and really good speed In pursuit.

He also had the highest pass rush grade of anyone at senior bowl week.

I don’t get the attempted narrative that he wouldn’t be a good fit in KC, but maybe I’m missing something.
He's 24, unpolished, despite playing for Minnesota and presumably having access to some legit coaching. That gives me the impression that he is slow to develop.
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Old 04-09-2022, 06:49 AM   #865
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Chris Olave
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S, Michigan
50.

Kansas City Chiefs
Cameron Thomas
EDGE, San Diego State
62.

Kansas City Chiefs
DeMarvin Leal
IDL, Texas A&M
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
James Cook
RB, Georgia
103.

Kansas City Chiefs
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CB, NCAA
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WR, Rutgers
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Old 04-09-2022, 09:11 AM   #866
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George Pickens
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Drake Jackson
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62.

Breece Hall
RB Iowa State
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94.

Greg Dulcich
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Old 04-09-2022, 09:03 PM   #868
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Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State
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Leo Chenal
LB Wisconsin
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103.

Jerome Ford
RB Cincinnati
KC
121.

Erik Ezukanma
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135.

Zachary Carter
DT Florida
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233.

Scott Nelson
S Wisconsin
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Old 04-09-2022, 09:31 PM   #869
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I’ve seen enough mock drafts where we give up a ton of value for Jameson Williams. Jesus Christ it’s getting old.
I agree. I could see a trade just before GB if they have a WR they covet but there are so many WR's in this draft they don't need to trade up. Legit #1's can be had at 29/30.

I'd be perfectly fine for a trade-up for one of the big-time pass rushers if they fall into reach in the early teens. That's it though.
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Old 04-09-2022, 10:39 PM   #870
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Schrager believes KC will pick Travis Jones and trade down with Seattle picking Matt Coral.

He didn't mention the pick compensation for KC
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