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Old 12-29-2019, 10:52 PM   #2
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"it was lame and silly in parts"

"i enjoyed it"

"that's to be expected"

i ****ing hate jar jar abrams
Like I said, I had low expectations.

And I'm no far of Jar Jar either; he's done irreparable damage to both Star Trek and Star Wars. But compared to Rian Johnson, he's David Lean.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:39 PM   #3
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i know TLJ wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but for me, at least it was original

i respect that a lot more than ANYTHING JJ has EVER done

Rian is a much better filmmaker - his past work proves this too

blame KK for the stuff you didn't like
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:46 PM   #4
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i know TLJ wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but for me, at least it was original

i respect that a lot more than ANYTHING JJ has EVER done

Rian is a much better filmmaker - his past work proves this too

blame KK for the stuff you didn't like
I'm told David Lynch has made some good movies, too. But he also made Dune, so I don't give a **** what else he did.

Last Jedi was the Dune of Star Wars.
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Old 12-30-2019, 12:07 AM   #5
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See, I like Dune.

I just can't respect anything JJ did. At least Rian tried to make it interesting.

Total hogwash trilogy at the end though. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

You don't see Nolan doing shit like this. Why? He's the one in charge of everything.
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Old 12-30-2019, 12:18 AM   #6
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Saw it earlier tonight. Man, what a shitty mess. So much potential, but nothing more than a dumbed down and watered down marketing campaign for mass appeal. So many issues that create a shit stain on lots of prior movie plots and canon. At least Chewie finally got his medal.

If not for the Mandalorian, I'd be done with Star Wars. How can that series be so right, when the last two movies have felt so completely wrong? Bleh....
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Old 12-30-2019, 12:27 AM   #7
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Also... does this mean Ahsoka Tano is dead? I got all excited when I saw a character credited for doing an Ahsoka Tano voice in IX before I watched the movie. I thought I caught a spoiler and there would be a live action Ahsoka character. But she was just a force voice used when Rey was hearing all the Jedi team quotes. Discussion that it means she actually died in her fight against Vader in Rebels....
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Old 12-30-2019, 11:31 AM   #8
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Also... does this mean Ahsoka Tano is dead? I got all excited when I saw a character credited for doing an Ahsoka Tano voice in IX before I watched the movie. I thought I caught a spoiler and there would be a live action Ahsoka character. But she was just a force voice used when Rey was hearing all the Jedi team quotes. Discussion that it means she actually died in her fight against Vader in Rebels....
Ahsoka and Sabine went searching for Ezra and Thrawn in the closing moments of the final episode of Rebels.

And according to Dave Filoni, Ahsoka is not dead, even though her voice is heard in RoS.
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Old 12-30-2019, 11:36 AM   #9
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Sorry, I just don't find it believable.

Palpatine was busy ruling an Empire and doing Sith shit, not ****ing.

This isn't Game of Thrones.
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Old 12-30-2019, 11:51 AM   #10
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Sorry, I just don't find it believable.
Please correct me in case I'm misunderstanding you:

The Force, Force Ghosts, engineering that allows spaceships to traverse a galaxy at or beyond lightspeed without any loss of time or matter along with the mechanical know-how to not only design one type of "Planet-Destroying" weapon but multiple planet destroying weapons?

Believable

The most powerful man in the galaxy having concubines and numerous bastard children throughout said galaxy, like ALL powerful men throughout history, including those living today?

Not Believable

Is that correct?
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Old 12-30-2019, 12:02 PM   #11
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Please correct me in case I'm misunderstanding you:

The Force, Force Ghosts, engineering that allows spaceships to traverse a galaxy at or beyond lightspeed without any loss of time or matter along with the mechanical know-how to not only design one type of "Planet-Destroying" weapon but multiple planet destroying weapons?

Believable

The most powerful man in the galaxy having concubines and numerous bastard children throughout said galaxy, like ALL powerful men throughout history, including those living today?

Not Believable

Is that correct?
In the established context of the Star Wars galaxy, yes, Palpatine ****ing and also losing track of his offspring...doesn't sound believable to me.

At all.

At the very least, he'd just kill them. His son apparently didn't even have force powers? Even more unbelievable.
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In the established context of the Star Wars galaxy, yes, Palpatine ****ing and also losing track of his offspring...doesn't sound believable to me.

At all.

At the very least, he'd just kill them. His son apparently didn't even have force powers? Even more unbelievable.
Poe Dameron's mother had Force Powers: Poe has none.

I don't think it's ever been made Canon that the only way to have Force Powers is to inherit them through a parent.

On the contrary, Finn's Force Sensitivity seems to stem from a belief in The Force, much like Luke in A New Hope.

Personally, I liked RJ's "Democratization" of The Force.
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Old 12-30-2019, 01:40 PM   #13
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On the contrary, Finn's Force Sensitivity seems to stem from a belief in The Force, much like Luke in A New Hope.
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In the established context of the Star Wars galaxy, yes, Palpatine ****ing and also losing track of his offspring...doesn't sound believable to me.
Vader interrogated Princess Leia on the Death Star and had no idea that she was his daughter.

Vader was a few meters from Luke in A New Hope and had no idea that he was his son and was actively trying to kill him as he was flying over the Death Star.

The Jedi Council routinely met with Palpatine in his chambers and had no idea he was a Sith Lord, including Yoda.

I don't think that Force powers have been clearly defined as of yet.
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Yeah, it just doesn't really make much sense that the Emperor would have been off getting poontang on the side. It's just lazy writing.
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