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Old 07-20-2022, 01:11 PM  
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:20 PM   #511
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I think the differences in portrayals of the characters are a purposeful choice …to show that history books are shaped by the writers’ biases and perspectives.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:31 PM   #512
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I think the differences in portrayals of the characters are a purposeful choice …to show that history books are shaped by the writers’ biases and perspectives.
Their choices make Aemond a much more interesting character than he ever was in the books.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:52 PM   #513
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That shot of Vhagar in the distance as he heads into the keep was terrifying.
yeah that was like the t-rex shot from jurassic park x1,000,000

****ing terrifyingly awesome

also vhagar's groan after the chomp was epic...never heard a dragon say "**** yeah!" but i think that was it...in valyrian
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:57 PM   #514
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It will be interesting to see if Sapochnik leaving as co-show runner will make the series worse. I hope not.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:13 PM   #515
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Badass.

They took a spinoff that came in with whale-shit low expectations thanks to the end of GOT and made it really good.

That big dragon is terrifying. The atmosphere set up in the storm was fantastic.

We also see why the dragons all die out. They don't have control.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:17 PM   #516
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I can not believe they didn't **** this up and improved things for the story/characters.


Well done, HBO and George. Expected this to be a catastrophe and its ****ing great.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:19 PM   #517
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Their choices make Aemond a much more interesting character than he ever was in the books.
Agreed; they've done that for most of the major players in this show.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:21 PM   #518
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And Aemond is the great grandpa X9-10 of
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This isn’t accurate. He would be some sort of cousin. Maybe uncle? But not direct lineage.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:23 PM   #519
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The "It wasn't my fault" angle won't play. He has to own it or it would be totally out of character for how they've painted him. If they try to go the other way it will be disappointing.
He will.

That's Aemond. And it's just another interesting thing they can do on this show given the 3rd party perspective of the source material.

It's a fascinating effort you don't see very often. They're taking the reliability of the source material and calling it into question. They're retroactively creating an unreliable narrator dilemma (which is ALWAYS fascinating reading, IMO).

I'm sure Aemond will come back talking big shit and making it sound like he absolutely did it on purpose. And frankly, he'll probably spend a fair amount of time convincing himself he DID.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:25 PM   #520
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He will.

That's Aemond. And it's just another interesting thing they can do on this show given the 3rd party perspective of the source material.

It's a fascinating effort you don't see very often. They're taking the reliability of the source material and calling it into question. They're retroactively creating an unreliable narrator dilemma (which is ALWAYS fascinating reading, IMO).

I'm sure Aemond will come back talking big shit and making it sound like he absolutely did it on purpose. And frankly, he'll probably spend a fair amount of time convincing himself he DID.
I think it will be Cole who convinces him to take credit for it.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:28 PM   #521
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I gotta say that was a great episode.

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Like I said before, the little things are what makes the thing go and they goddamned got it.
I think my favorite part of the show is that they DIDN'T age up the characters like they did in GOT.

Some of the odd/reckless decisions the Stark children make in the television series lose a little weight because it's grown ass people making them. And some of the impressive things they do are less impressive because again - adults.

But in HOTD they've kept them looking as young as they were. Luke looked like a terrified kid in that meeting with Baratheon. And if he's in his mid-20s, he has a better response then "Okay, lemme go tell my mom..."

That was an excellent decision and while it made some of the earlier scenes with Daemon and Rhaneara a little creepy, it really helped with the rest of the show.
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I think it will be Cole who convinces him to take credit for it.
****ing Cole...
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:30 PM   #523
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This isn’t accurate. He would be some sort of cousin. Maybe uncle? But not direct lineage.
That is correct. Daemon and Rhaenarya are the (great 9 or 10) grandparents of Dany and Jon.
Daenarys is Rhaegar's sister. Rhaegar is Jon Snow's father. So that means Jon was balls deep in his aunt.
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****ing Cole...
On second thought, it will probably be Otto.


Going to be wild seeing them meld stuff into S2 as there are few big battles/events and I'm sure they're going to end S2 with
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Old 10-24-2022, 10:06 PM   #525
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Agreed; they've done that for most of the major players in this show.
Fully agreed.

I gotta say, I was skeptical coming into this season due to Condal's background, and the time jumps they had to make in order to finish this season (Reminder: Aemond wasn't BORN yet by Episode 5, halfway through this season).

But hot damn did they still make this compelling. Not only that, they made this season off of... 70 pages of source material? Another concern I had was a problem The Hobbit movies ran into, a lot of characters, but not a lot to actually adapt from. But did the actors (shoutout especially to Paddy Considine) ever rise to the occasion to bring life to their counterparts in Fire and Blood - and the writers, under the guidance of GRRM, really brought what was originally written as a history textbook to life.

And the thing is... this was all exposition to the good stuff.
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