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Old 01-29-2005, 10:54 AM  
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Mike Webster...what a sad story

anyone see this series of articles????

Sometimes we take games too seriously.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972285


Monday, January 24, 2005

With a pending court case involving the NFL retirement plan and Mike Webster, ESPN.com explores the life and tragic death of the former Steelers center. First in a five-part series:


By Greg Garber
ESPN.com

Mike Webster never made it to his son's 10th birthday party in Lodi, Wis. Lying in a dark room at the Budgetel Inn, some 20 minutes away in Madison, he was bed-bound in a haze of pain and narcotics, a bucket of vomit by his side.



When his playing days were over, Mike Webster barely resembled the man they called Iron Mike.
Webster was often laced with a varying, numbing cocktail of medications: Ritalin or Dexedrine to keep him calm. Paxil to ease anxiety. Prozac to ward off depression. Klonopin to prevent seizures. Vicodin or Ultram or Darvocet or Lorcet, in various combinations, to subdue the general ache. And Eldepryl, commonly prescribed to patients who suffer from Parkinson's disease.


After 17 seasons in the National Football League, Webster had lost any semblance of control over his once-invincible body. His brain showed signs of dementia. His head throbbed constantly. He suffered from significant hearing loss. Three lumbar vertebrae and two cervical vertebrae ached from frayed and herniated discs. A chronically damaged right heel caused him to limp. His right shoulder was sore from a torn rotator cuff. His right elbow grew stiff from once being dislocated. His knees, the cartilage in them all but gone, creaked from years of bone grinding against bone. His knuckles were scarred and swollen. His fingers bent gruesomely wayward.


"He was too sick to come to my birthday party. He didn't even call me and I was mad," Garrett Webster remembered recently. "Now, I understand that there was something wrong."


Ten years later, there is only a faint strain of resentment in his voice. His father, the celebrated Hall of Fame center for the Pittsburgh Steelers, is gone now. Still, the mental snapshots, those harrowing memories, persist of the stoic man they called Iron Mike:



Desperate for a few moments of peace from the acute pain, repeatedly stunning himself, sometimes a dozen times, into unconsciousness with a black Taser gun. "The only way he could get to sleep," said Garrett.


A Steeler's Melting Point
Mike Webster walked away from the NFL with four Super Bowl rings. Walked away with more than an assortment of chronic aches and pains. Walked away and found out years later that he was mentally disabled. In a five-part series, ESPN.com explores the after-football life of the former Pittsburgh Steelers great, from his odyssey of bizarre behavior and failed business ventures to his eventual homelessness and untimely death.


Monday: A tormented soul
Tuesday: Blood and guts
Wednesday: Man on the moon
Thursday: Wandering through the fog
Friday: Sifting the ashes



Glassy-eyed like a punch-drunk boxer, huddled alone, staring into space night after night at the Amtrak station in downtown Pittsburgh. "Living on potato chips and dry cereal," said Joe Gordon, a Steelers employee.



A formidable man, at 6-foot-2 and 250 pounds, who sometimes forgot to eat for days -- sleeping in his battered, black Chevy S-10 pickup truck, a garbage bag duct-taped over the missing window. "Sometimes he didn't seem to care," said Sunny Jani, the primary caregiver the last six years of his life.



Writing wandering journals in a cramped, earnest hand so convoluted in their spare eloquence that, upon reading them in his lucid moments, he would be moved to weep. "You had absolutely no idea what was going through his mind," said Colin, his oldest son.



The powerfully proud former athlete, anguished and curled up in a fetal position for three or four days, puzzling over his life, contemplating suicide and, in later years, placing those sad, rambling calls, almost daily in the later years, to friends and family when he couldn't find his way home. "All I see is trees," he'd say apologetically, almost in a whisper.



The man inside the coffin wasn't the same person, at least mentally, as the man in the pictures.
When Webster died in Pittsburgh on Sept, 24, 2002, at the age of 50, the official cause was heart failure. That was absurd, of course. Few players showed more heart than Webster in his marvelous 17-year NFL career. In the end, his body and brain left him a defeated man.


Webster's Steelers won four Super Bowls in six seasons from 1974-79 and rank as one of the league's greatest teams. There has been a football renaissance in Pittsburgh, where this year's Steelers finished the regular season with only one loss and reached the AFC championship game. They won't be going to Jacksonville, but with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger no longer a rookie, running back Jerome "The Bus" Bettis contemplating another season and the core of a savage defense back, square-jawed Bill Cowher may be coaching his team in Detroit this time next year.


Nine players from the Steelers' 1970s dynasty are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Eight of them -- Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris, Jack Lambert, Joe Greene, Jack Ham, Mel Blount, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth -- reveled in the franchise's return to glory. Their missing comrade is a footnote worth considering. Amid the fervor and fanaticism that enveloped the Steel City this season is Webster's reminder of the daunting price the game can sometimes extract.


Sometime later this year a collision is likely to occur in a Baltimore courtroom. Civil Action No. WDQ-04-cv-1606, the Estate of Michael L. Webster v. The Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle NFL Player Retirement Plan and The NFL Player Supplemental Disability Plan, is working its way through Maryland's U.S. District Court.


The NFL already has paid Webster and his estate more than $600,000 -- $100,020 annually for the last three years of his life, plus a $309,230 retroactive payment made in December to cover his disability from 1996-99. Webster's surviving family -- ex-wife Pamela, 53, and four children, Brooke, 27; Colin, 25; Garrett, 20; and Hillary, 16 -- wants more. A lawsuit directed by Jani, the administrator of Webster's estate, seeks an additional $1.142 million in disability payments, plus legal fees and expenses, going back to his retirement after the 1990 season. The suit argues that Webster was mentally disabled when he left the game and that by denying Webster "active football" disability the NFL's pension board committed an "abuse of discretion."


"This isn't a knee that became inflamed after an old injury -- this is about Mike Webster's brain," said Cyril Smith, co-counsel for the plaintiffs. "He was hit in the head thousands of times and suffered many concussions at a time when the dangers weren't widely recognized. The evidence is clear that he was completely disabled by March of 1991."


As evidence of Webster's diminished cognitive command from 1991-96, the family cites the loss of assets over a period of several years that once amounted to an estimated $2 million to $3 million or more.


"Are you telling me that 17 seasons in the NFL didn't factor into his bad business decisions?" Garrett Webster said. "World-famous athletes, at the end of their careers, people say you're stupid and lazy. But that's what football does to you."



Mike Webster (52) helped the Steelers enjoy four Super Bowl victories in the 1970s.
The NFL contends there is no empirical evidence that Webster was disabled before 1996, noting that no doctor who assessed Webster in the original case saw him until after 1996. Regarding his competence, the NFL points to the same business dealings referred to by the estate.


"It's a very sad case," said Doug Ell, the lead attorney for the NFL retirement plan. "He was a great, great player. He tried to run all these businesses, all these companies and, ultimately, it's not clear that any of them succeeded. The Board can't say a guy is permanently disabled just because his businesses failed."


This much is certain: Webster's life and career were, in so many ways, a worst-case scenario for physical and emotional well-being. With a family history of mental illness and heart disease, Webster played a compromising position in an exceedingly violent game for an extended period of time. He competed in an era when the rules governing contact were far more liberal than they are today and the development of safer equipment, particularly helmets, was embryonic. Webster's toughness, a quality that compelled him to play in 177 consecutive games, exacerbated his injuries, just as experimentation with anabolic steroids might have led to later liver, kidney and heart ailments. His immense pride worked powerfully against him; in a city noted for the exquisite steel bridges that span its three rivers, Webster resisted when friends and former teammates reached out to help.


Some people will see the suit as a referendum on the NFL and its treatment of former players who are irreparably injured in their service to the league. Others view the case as a transparent, after-the-fact money grab.


"The kids deserve it," Jani said, "because of what their dad went through. They basically sacrificed their father to this game. If somebody told them, 'We'll take care of your dad [but] we gave him a spaghetti brain and we'll give you a million dollars.' They would say, 'No, thanks. I'd rather have my dad.' "


This is one of the few things all four children agree on.


"Mike's story needs to be told," Pam Webster said from her home in Lodi, where she lives with three of her four children. "I don't want this man to die in vain.


"They're gladiators. When the game is over, these guys have to go home. And when it's over, a lot of them don't have a home to go to."

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Old 01-29-2005, 10:58 AM   #2
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Wow... that sucks. Webster = arguably the best OC in NFL history.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:39 AM   #3
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He looked good in a Chiefs uniform even at the end of his career.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:40 AM   #4
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That is sad, I think if the Drs could have not given him so many meds and found things that actually worked for him, I mean giving him Ritilan to help him relax??? Whats up with that, Ritilan only speeds up adults, as it has been compared to the effects of Cocaine.

Drs put people on way too many meds these days and combinations can be fatal.

My brother has been on meds since he was 2 years old for various disorders ADD, Seizures, Psyco drugs, and it has done nothing but mess him up more and more. He has been changed so many times, I bet he has taken over 100 different variations over his 22 years. Its just a shame.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:45 AM   #5
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Yea they had a 5 part story on him this last week on ESPN.com ( 1 part each day) and it was pretty heartbreaking the shit this man had to deal with the last 10 years of his life ....

" He would often be in so much pain that he would have his son or best friend use a taser gun to stun him unconcious to be able to sleep, and if no one was around to do it for him he would do it himself".

That kind of said it all to me with that one sentence!

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Old 01-29-2005, 12:41 PM   #6
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the old time (read 70's) football players took a lot more punishment than players now days...

particularly the center, who often got a head slap from the dt that would knock out a lesser man...

i played center in h.s. in the mid 60's and even at that level, i got knocked silly way too often...

but webster just kept playing...

that's why they called him "iron mike"...

r.i.p. big guy...
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Old 01-29-2005, 01:18 PM   #7
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the old time (read 70's) football players took a lot more punishment than players now days...

particularly the center, who often got a head slap from the dt that would knock out a lesser man...

i played center in h.s. in the mid 60's and even at that level, i got knocked silly way too often...

but webster just kept playing...

that's why they called him "iron mike"...

r.i.p. big guy...
When KCFalcon59 and I played HS ball in the late 70's and early 80's our coach taught US the head slap that he (our coach) had learned in college ball in the early 70's at K-State, (he played with Steve Grogan), then later in the CFL cause his agent F**KED him and that was the only option he had.

But playing nose tackle in my later years in HS the head slap would draw a penalty if they caught you doing it!

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Old 01-29-2005, 01:27 PM   #8
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That is sad, I think if the Drs could have not given him so many meds and found things that actually worked for him, I mean giving him Ritilan to help him relax??? Whats up with that, Ritilan only speeds up adults, as it has been compared to the effects of Cocaine.

Drs put people on way too many meds these days and combinations can be fatal.

My brother has been on meds since he was 2 years old for various disorders ADD, Seizures, Psyco drugs, and it has done nothing but mess him up more and more. He has been changed so many times, I bet he has taken over 100 different variations over his 22 years. Its just a shame.
Yeah, fug meds.
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Old 01-29-2005, 01:27 PM   #9
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When KCFalcon59 and I played HS ball in the late 70's and early 80's our coach taught US the head slap that he (our coach) had learned in college ball in the early 70's at K-State, (he played with Steve Grogan), then later in the CFL cause his agent F**KED him and that was the only option he had.

But playing nose tackle in my later years in HS the head slap would draw a penalty if they caught you doing it!

nose tackle?

somehow i pictured you as fit and trim, not a wide body...
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Old 01-29-2005, 01:41 PM   #10
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Yeah, I'd been following this series all week. What a sad story.
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Old 01-29-2005, 06:12 PM   #11
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Yeah, fug meds.

Don't take me wrong, a lot of people need meds, but the combinations they give plus a lot of crap they don't really need, I think can make people worse, and can cause depression.

I mean dont fug all meds like heart and blood pressure and for pain and stuff, but some Drs over do it.
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Old 01-29-2005, 06:20 PM   #12
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Don't take me wrong, a lot of people need meds, but the combinations they give plus a lot of crap they don't really need, I think can make people worse, and can cause depression.

I mean dont fug all meds like heart and blood pressure and for pain and stuff, but some Drs over do it.
There was a very good ER episode about this very subject.

I know it is fiction, but it brings to light the whole "lets drug em first and ask questions later" mentality that our country is turning into.

Dammit, every other minute there is a drug commercial on the TV, then at the end a whole lot of disclaimer about side effects, all the while smiling happy people on the tube because they take this drug.

Fug it, lets just get stoned and be done with it.
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Old 01-29-2005, 06:29 PM   #13
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There was a very good ER episode about this very subject.

I know it is fiction, but it brings to light the whole "lets drug em first and ask questions later" mentality that our country is turning into.

Dammit, every other minute there is a drug commercial on the TV, then at the end a whole lot of disclaimer about side effects, all the while smiling happy people on the tube because they take this drug.

Fug it, lets just get stoned and be done with it.
I agree, the side affects causes more problems, which of course creates other problems which you need more medicine for and then those have their side effects and on and on.

Your right lets get high frig all the meds, unless of course you can get high with them.
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Old 01-29-2005, 10:33 PM   #14
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nose tackle?

somehow i pictured you as fit and trim, not a wide body...

I am more of a wide body NOW than in High School, then I was 6'1 225. And I played for a parochial school here in KS and it was class 1A so anyone over 150lbs was considered a lineman!

NOW I am 6'1 320.

I guess everyone has thier images of other planetiers ... YOU were way off bud !



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