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Old 06-30-2020, 07:59 PM  
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Chris Jones threatens to Hold Out

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Old 07-02-2020, 07:42 PM   #211
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Dominique Foxworth made a great point. With Jones on the field opposing QBs QBR are 32 which is basically Mason Rudolph. With Jones off the field QBs are 64 which is Carson Wentz. He single handedly changes this defense
Yet I have to read dumbass Hosmer comparisons
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:54 PM   #212
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Why isn’t the cap assigned 2 years in advance?

Serious question.
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:54 PM   #213
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Yet I have to read dumbass Hosmer comparisons
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:13 PM   #214
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Yet I have to read dumbass Hosmer comparisons
It’s ****ing reeruned!! Jones is the most crucial player on this defense
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:24 PM   #215
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I think Veach might be able to make this work.

Obviously offload players like LDT and Okafor.

Push the can down the road by extending Landlord and Kelce and creating money (Justified)

Big key for us is Niang. If he can be a solid replacement for Fisher in 2021, then that would go a long way for us to have $13 million to put towards Chris.
Hw will have to convince Clark Mark Donovan and Jones. That's a lot of convincing.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:04 AM   #216
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People here seriously undervalue Jones. We don’t win the Super Bowl Without him. He is the ever player on this defense. He makes everything work. He is definitely worth 20 mil a year.
He was absolute nails on those last few drives in the SB - when we had to have a stop.

I still have Matthieu over Jones though in terms of indispensable value. But Jones over Clark.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:11 AM   #217
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It’s ****ing reeruned!! Jones is the most crucial player on this defense
I don’t disagree with his importance and have sung his praises this entire thread, homie. Signing Jones will most likely put us in a “stars and scraps” situation (think I borrowed that phrase from Duncan). Jones may be so important to our front office that they make the signing anyway - but maybe not.

As Chiefs fans, I can’t recall the last time we let go of a player as dominant and as young as Jones. Marcus Peters was great, but his trade made sense, especially if his rumored beef with Patrick was legit.

In the past, our decent QB’s made only decent money, allowing the Chiefs to pretty much keep their talent at other positions. Now that we have the best QB in the NFL, we may have to get used to difficult partings with star players every once in a while.

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Old 07-03-2020, 01:18 AM   #218
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I don’t disagree with his importance and have sung his praises this entire thread, homie. Signing Jones will most likely put us in a “stars and scraps” situation. Jones may be so important to our front office that they make the signing anyway - but maybe not.

As Chiefs fans, I can’t recall the last time we let go of a player as dominant and as young as Jones. Marcus Peters was great, but his trade made sense, especially if his rumored beef with Patrick was legit.

In the past, our decent QB’s made only decent money, allowing the Chiefs to pretty much keep their talent at other positions. Now that we have the best QB in the NFL, we may have to get used to difficult partings with star players every once in a while.
We could’ve used Watkins money for Jones....
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Old 07-03-2020, 03:11 AM   #219
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We could’ve used Watkins money for Jones....
While I’ve argued that you need to equip Mahomes with all the talent possible, it will indeed suck if Jones isn’t signed because of a layer that won’t be with the team after this season.

It’s a tough situation all around but I think it has less to do with a desire to keep Jones and more to do with Covid uncertainty and getting Mahomes signed long-term.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:52 AM   #220
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I think it’s increasingly clear they aren’t going to keep Jones.

You don’t offer Andrus Peat $45m this offseason if you have ntendes to keep Jones.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:34 AM   #221
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We could’ve used Watkins money for Jones....

Nonfactor.

Jones’ cap hit in year 1 of an extension is 99 percent certain to be less than his cap hit on the franchise tag.

One-year moves like Watkins aren’t the issue here. Fitting him into the plans long-term and in 2021 IF the cap drops is the key factor.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:45 AM   #222
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Nonfactor.

Jones’ cap hit in year 1 of an extension is 99 percent certain to be less than his cap hit on the franchise tag.

One-year moves like Watkins aren’t the issue here. Fitting him into the plans long-term and in 2021 IF the cap drops is the key factor.
That and Watkins restructured his contract. He was going to have a cap hit if we cut him. There was not a lot of cap room difference between his restructured deal and the cap hit.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:39 AM   #223
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I think it’s increasingly clear they aren’t going to keep Jones.

You don’t offer Andrus Peat $45m this offseason if you have ntendes to keep Jones.
Wait, we were trying to acquire Andrus Peat? Not doubting it, but it's just the first I've heard of it.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:05 PM   #224
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Wait, we were trying to acquire Andrus Peat? Not doubting it, but it's just the first I've heard of it.
Yep, Saints outbid to keep him.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:19 PM   #225
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Pretty telling that per that report Veach and co never saw Jones as a $20 million player and did not ask for it. Just seems like they are so far apart here that neither want a deal at this point, which syncs up with the “they aren’t even discussing this deal” report.

As much as I think we can keep him, it’s hard to think Jones will be here long term.

I will say that Veach was absolutely right to pay Frank Clark last year, even with Chris wanting a deal. If this is a choice we have to make between Frank and Chris, then I think the right move was made to pay Frank.
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