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Old 05-22-2020, 03:18 PM   Topic Starter
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I ranked QBs entering the 2020 season
My boss went home at 1:30 but we apparently gotta stay here and browse the interwebz until 4:30 so I have been creating a ranking of NFL QBs and I'm sure I'll be called an idiot and that my rankings are ****ing stupid but whatever

I didn't bother with rookies and/or guys that the jury is still out on (: Burrow, Murray, Haskins, Darnold, Jones, Tua, Minshew, Lock, Stidham)

1. Mahomes













2. Wilson




3. Jackson 4. Brees 5. Rodgers 6. Watson 7. Brady


8. Wentz 9. Prescott 10. Ryan 11. Roethlisberger

12. Cousins 13. Stafford 14. Rivers 15. Garoppolo 16. Goff 17. Tannehill 18. Carr 19. Mayfield 20. Allen 21. Bridgewater



22. Trubisky 23. Taylor


I feel like Bridgewater could be anywhere from 12 - 21 but given the injury and the lack of playing time I threw him ahead of Trubisky/Taylor and Stidham.

What say you all? Hope you all have a good weekend
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:23 PM   #2
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Stidham gets ranked but the jury is still out on Kyler Murray and Sam Darnold?
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:24 PM   #3
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Stidham gets ranked but the jury is still out on Kyler Murray and Sam Darnold?
Good catch... I guess thats just my person thought on him. Fixed
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:24 PM   #4
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:37 PM   #7
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This forum tends to overrate Watson. The dude has no business being above Ryan, pre-shoulder injury Rapeburger, or even Dak.

If we’re talking Top 10 QB’s, there’s just of good of an argument to place him in the 10 spot as there is putting him at 11.

Outside of that, solid list.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:48 PM   #8
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This forum severely overrates Watson. The dude has no business being above Ryan, pre-shoulder injury Rapeburger, or even Dak.

If we’re talking Top 10 QB’s, there’s just of good of an argument to place him in the 10 spot as there is putting him at 11.

Outside of that, solid list.
I disagree. You've said yourself, Watson is basically Alex Smith who isn't afraid to sling it down field. Alex himself, with that limiting factor, was probably anywhere from a top 8-16 QB in his time here. Take away his inhibitions and add even more dangerous running ability and you get a really, really good QB in Watson.
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I disagree. You've said yourself, Watson is basically Alex Smith who isn't afraid to sling it down field. Alex himself, with that limiting factor, was probably anywhere from a top 8-16 QB in his time here. Take away his inhibitions and add even more dangerous running ability and you get a really, really good QB in Watson.
If you said 10-16 I’d agree with you.

I just think there’s a wide gap between Top 5 and a Top 10 QB. I think one can make an argument Watson is on the outside part of the Top 10, but I think there’s a sizable space between him and Top 5 QB’s.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:35 AM   #10
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If you said 10-16 I’d agree with you.

I just think there’s a wide gap between Top 5 and a Top 10 QB. I think one can make an argument Watson is on the outside part of the Top 10, but I think there’s a sizable space between him and Top 5 QB’s.
Bro, come on now. There are not 15 QBs in the NFL who are better than Deshaun Watson.
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Bro, come on now. There are not 15 QBs in the NFL who are better than Deshaun Watson.
You're gonna make me make my list, aren't you? I have no disrespect for Watson, honestly. Had the Chiefs picked him you better believe he'd be my main man for life and my dream QB - because the Chiefs would have finally drafted a QB in the first. But still. He's not Top 5. You're completely right, btw, there aren't 15 QB's better than Watson. I didn't put a lot of thought into that 10-16 number (I misread your post and didn't realize you were referring to Alex). But the difference between Watson and a Top 5 is the exact same difference between him and the middle of the pack. Let's look at Watson's 2019 numbers.

Passing Yards: 3,852 (13th)
YPA: 7.8 (12th)
AYPA: 7.7 (11th)
YPG: 256.8 (11th)
Rating: 98.0 (11th)
TD% 5.3 (9th)
INT% 2.4 (20th)
Touchdowns: 26 (10th)

Watson is Top 5 in completion percentage (coming in at 5th) but he was also ranked #1 in sacks for the second straight year, coming in with 55 this year. He took 62 in 2018. This is where I feel the Smith comparison shines the brightest. The Texans invested heavily to improve their OL after 2018 and it didn't end up mattering all that much. Houston's (@ BattleRedBlog) own fans analyzed his sacks from 2018 and found that around 35% of them were due to Watson holding onto the ball too long. I believe Watson, like Smith, makes his line look far worse than it actually is and I feel that is a major concern to his game. Honestly, the criticism this forum is so quick to tag onto Lamar Jackson as an argument for why Lamar isn't elite should be tagged to Watson. I also am curious to see how Watson adapts to losing Hopkins this year.

If I had to rank my Top 10, I'd go..

1. Mahomes
2. Wilson

(There is a big gap here)

3. Rodgers
4. Lamar (hard to place him at the moment)
5. Brees
6. Ryan
7. Dak
8. Stafford
9. Rapesburger
10. Watson
11. Wentz (Wentz would be #10 for me if it weren't for his durability concerns).
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I disagree. You've said yourself, Watson is basically Alex Smith who isn't afraid to sling it down field. Alex himself, with that limiting factor, was probably anywhere from a top 8-16 QB in his time here. Take away his inhibitions and add even more dangerous running ability and you get a really, really good QB in Watson.
If Mike Singletary and the 49ers hadn't destroyed Alex Smith he would have turned out really similarly to Watson. They killed Smith just like the Texans destroyed Carr. Singletary never should have been an NFL Head Coach.
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If Mike Singletary and the 49ers hadn't destroyed Alex Smith he would have turned out really similarly to Watson. They killed Smith just like the Texans destroyed Carr. Singletary never should have been an NFL Head Coach.
Not a high school coach, either!

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Not a high school coach, either!

Not saying Singletary is a great coach or anything, but coaching high schoolers is way different than coaching pro athletes. Or college players. Some of the best coaches in the NFL (think lifeless robots like Belichick) would make terrible high school coaches unless they drastically changed their coaching/teaching philosophies.

That being said... it's time for Mike to hang'em up
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I'd take Brees and Rodgers over Jackson.

Stafford over Cousins.

Bridgewater over Mayfield. Maybe over Carr.
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