*****The Noah Gray Thread*****

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Listening to Nate on this Kingdom Kast pod (he retweeted it if you wanna listen) and man he is pretty much telling everyone how excited the Chiefs are to have this guy.

He mentioned a lot of things Andy did when Alex was here bc they had 2 capable TE’s. One was forcing the defense to keep LB’s on the field by running 12 personnel with 2 TE’s and lining one up in the slot and in-line, then checking to have both TE’s in the slot and the defense panicking last minute bc it’s ****ing hard covering 2 capable receiving TE’s, especially when one is the best in the league.

He also mentioned that Andy had plays in practice and camp that he saw that they never ran and basically said that the Chiefs couldn’t run them bc of the lack of talent at TE2.

This is going to be so ****ing fun. I can’t wait to see these guys together

Yeah, that's why I've been intrigued by the idea of acquiring another good TE who is a receiving threat and ramping up the use of 12 personnel.

Key is if Gray blocks well enough to make teams play 12 personnel like a true TE is on the field. If he does, KC can play these games and work mismatches.

Pairing Kelce/Gray with Hardman/Hill could be really, really nasty, too. You know teams are going to keep their safeties deep if Hill is out there, let alone Hill and Hardman. Will leave a lot of room underneath and also create numbers advantages in the run game.

[Wilson8]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yeah, that's why I've been intrigued by the idea of acquiring another good TE who is a receiving threat and ramping up the use of 12 personnel.

Key is if Gray blocks well enough to make teams play 12 personnel like a true TE is on the field. If he does, KC can play these games and work mismatches.

Pairing Kelce/Gray with Hardman/Hill could be really, really nasty, too. You know teams are going to keep their safeties deep if Hill is out there, let alone Hill and Hardman. Will leave a lot of room underneath and also create numbers advantages in the run game.

I agree.

I'm excited to see what the Chiefs do with Noah Gray.

Noah's size isn't bad. At the 2021 Senior Bowl, his measurements were height - 6035, weight - 240, wing - 78 1/8, arm - 31 1/2, and hand - 9 3/8.

At the Duke Pro Day, he ran an unofficial 4.52 40 yard dash, 35" vertical, 9' 7" broad jump, 4.30 short shuttle, 6.72 3-cone drill, and 15 bench press. Everything but the BP is very good for a TE.

To really help the Chiefs though, Noah needs to get bigger and stronger. If you watch Duke game films, you will see Noah is a willing blocker, but he just gets in the way of the defender and he's not really driving and blocking. It also concerns me as a 240 pound man, he seldom makes a defender pay for hitting him. He gets pounded, thrown down, and gets beat up on most of the plays where he is the receiver.

The good news, Chiefs can help him with his strength and blocking, so another good draft pick for the Chiefs.