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Old 05-18-2022, 03:12 PM  
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Old 05-23-2022, 09:29 AM   #46
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Me too.

But still...what's the appeal?

Does she really stand alone as a competent character, or is she just one of many diversity cash-ins?

I can understand it on occasion, as a novelty...

But it's all there is now.

Rey "Skywalker".
Captain Marvel.
Wonder Woman 1984.
The lady on The Mandalorian that beat up Boba Fett.
Every woman from Black Panther.

Less Mary Sue's and more Ellen Ripley, please.
Oh Jesus ****ing Christ.

What's the point of bringing out Moon Knight then? He's not a popular character. Marvel is bringing out properties and seeing if they become a hit.

Are you really telling me that you thought a Scarlet Witch/Vision show was going to do well?

Mother****ers need to stop acting like a female character has to fit into what you want. These shows aren't FOR YOU. Not every show has to be for you or match what you're looking for.

Don't like how it looks? Don't ****ing watch it.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:30 AM   #47
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:33 AM   #48
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Instead of complaining about the companies making "woke" shows and movies maybe you should complain that so many people are seeing these things to make them profitable.
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Old 05-23-2022, 04:52 PM   #49
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She-Hulk first appeared in Feb, 1980. She has been around longer than I have.
She and Spider Woman were created for the sole reason to avoid copyright problems. They were worried that the CBS Hulk TV series would pull a Bionic Woman and create a She-Hulk.

Worked out for Marvel.
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Old 05-23-2022, 06:15 PM   #50
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Instead of complaining about the companies making "woke" shows and movies maybe you should complain that so many people are seeing these things to make them profitable.


Or, people could point out that the early success has been impacting views by keeping the numbers high due to nostalgia, even though the product is deteriorating, just as we saw happen with Star Wars.
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Old 05-23-2022, 10:31 PM   #51
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Oh Jesus ****ing Christ.



What's the point of bringing out Moon Knight then? He's not a popular character. Marvel is bringing out properties and seeing if they become a hit.



Are you really telling me that you thought a Scarlet Witch/Vision show was going to do well?



Mother****ers need to stop acting like a female character has to fit into what you want. These shows aren't FOR YOU. Not every show has to be for you or match what you're looking for.



Don't like how it looks? Don't ****ing watch it.
My issue is not with Marvel attempting to profit off its lesser-known properties.

My issue is with their (and the majority of media's) pathological inability to write relatable female characters, which I strongly suspect has everything to do with their ideology.

I want She-Hulk to be good, but after what I've seen so far, I have little faith.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:42 AM   #52
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My issue is not with Marvel attempting to profit off its lesser-known properties.

My issue is with their (and the majority of media's) pathological inability to write relatable female characters, which I strongly suspect has everything to do with their ideology.

I want She-Hulk to be good, but after what I've seen so far, I have little faith.
You want female characters that you can relate with? Are you a woman?

You do realize that everything doesn’t have to be for you, correct? There are plenty of characters and movies that I won’t watch because I’ve watched a trailer and decided that I didn’t like it.

The main difference? I’m not on here bitching about them and how they aren’t relatable like Marvel ****ing owes me.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:59 AM   #53
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Or, people could point out that the early success has been impacting views by keeping the numbers high due to nostalgia, even though the product is deteriorating, just as we saw happen with Star Wars.
But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.

They gave each director control to do what they wanted making the overarching story make 0 sense. They were constantly adding and then retconning stuff.

Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..
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Old 05-24-2022, 09:04 AM   #54
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But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.

They gave each director control to do what they wanted making the overarching story make 0 sense. They were constantly adding and then retconning stuff.

Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..
And you can't compare the movies to the Disney+ shows. They don't have the budget and it's a small niche depending on what character they're showcasing.

Will I watch She Hulk? Nope. Is it because the female character is buff and isn't relatable to me? No. It's because the CGI looks basic as **** and the character was never interesting to me.

I also never watched the Scarlet Witch/Vision or Falcon and the Winter Soldier shows. I may down the road but they weren't must see TV when they first came out. Loki was though.
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But is that because they are pushing non white male characters or because the movies aren't as good quality.

The first is part of the second.


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I don't think the problem with star was was rey of any of the characters. The problem was they announced a trilogy and had no ****ing idea what they were going to do.
The characters were a problem. The storylines were a problem. The political angles were a problem. Pretty much everything was a problem.


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Captain marvel is a prime example of a character that isn't created to connect with me specifically (a 37 year old white male) but it made over 1B dollars. So it connected with someone.

And before you say it only made that money because of the hype between IW and endgame antman 2 was released in the same period and only made half..
You're now arguing that a movie doesn't suck because it made money. The list of movies that proves that argument to be silly is very long. But you're in good company with that (terrible) argument, as it gets used a lot in this forum, in one form or another.
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Well, they redid some of the CGI at least...

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