It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I think that goes both ways. One could argue that the first two SBs they won were because of the defense and not Brady. Also their sixth one was all because of Bill's defensive masterpiece.

In their first Super Bowl, the Rams scored 14 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, the last of which left 1:30 on the clock. Brady marched the team down the field and they kicked the game-winning FG.

Their 2nd Super Bowl, Brady completed 32 passes for 354 yards and 3 TD's while the defense gave up over 300 yards and 3 TD's to Jake Delhomme.

The last one is really the only one where you can't make an argument for Brady.

Brady had a QB rating over 100 in every Super Bowl save the first one and the last one.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

In their first Super Bowl, the Rams scored 14 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, the last of which left 1:30 on the clock. Brady marched the team down the field and they kicked the game-winning FG.

Their 2nd Super Bowl, Brady completed 32 passes for 354 yards and 3 TD's while the defense gave up over 300 yards and 3 TD's to Jake Delhomme.

The last one is really the only one where you can't make an argument for Brady.

Brady had a QB rating over 100 in every Super Bowl save the first one and the last one.

Fair enough. Either way they both benefitted from each other. I think Bill benefitted more as Brady masked a lot of the Patriots Way nonsense that has failed every other place it's been implemented. Its very hard to win a SB without an elite QB. That's why they get paid what they do.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Fair enough. Either way they both benefitted from each other. I think Bill benefitted more as Brady masked a lot of the Patriots Way nonsense that has failed every other place it's been implemented. Its very hard to win a SB without an elite QB. That's why they get paid what they do.

So we agree.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

In their first Super Bowl, the Rams scored 14 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, the last of which left 1:30 on the clock. Brady marched the team down the field and they kicked the game-winning FG.

Their 2nd Super Bowl, Brady completed 32 passes for 354 yards and 3 TD's while the defense gave up over 300 yards and 3 TD's to Jake Delhomme.

The last one is really the only one where you can't make an argument for Brady.

Brady had a QB rating over 100 in every Super Bowl save the first one and the last one.

If you are going to blame belichick for the 14 points allowed in the 4th quarter I think you have to give him huge credit for only allowing 3 in the first 3 quarters to the #1 offense in the league. Top 5 in almost all offensive categories, #1 in a ton.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

If you are going to blame belichick for the 14 points allowed in the 4th quarter I think you have to give him huge credit for only allowing 3 in the first 3 quarters to the #1 offense in the league. Top 5 in almost all offensive categories, #1 in a ton.

Of course.

That doesn't diminish the fact that when the Patriots NEEDED a game winning drive, it was Brady that delivered it.