Skyy Moore

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by O.city

With Mahomes at QB, you don't need WR's as much to make him look good as you do need him to make WR's.

**** thaaaat.

[kccrow]

The comp to DAT is so completely ridiculous man. Drop it. They aren't comparable players in any facet.

I'll be realistic about his floor and for me, that's Randall Cobb so long as he stays healthy. That's a career average of 53 for 651. That's a slightly higher baseline than Mecole has established so far (42 for 591). I think that's reasonable. Mecole did not come out with the same polish as this kid does. Mecole had 59 for 693 last year in his best season. I don't see Moore being less than that at the same point. He may struggle to get enough targets this year though to eclipse it.

If we concede Tate is his ceiling, fine, still a great pick. If Stafford can make Tate a 1000-yard receiver, there's no reason to think Mahomes can't make Moore a 1000-yard receiver. If you're getting that value from the 54th pick, you've done well. If he ends up getting to the volume of targets Tyreek got, it's not unreasonable to see the potential for Diontae Johnson numbers. In Tyreeks volume range, Johnson put up 88 for 923 and 7 TDs.

[DJ's left nut]

They’re more reasonable than this Antonio Brown shit that keeps getting sent out there.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They’re more reasonable than this Antonio Brown shit that keeps getting sent out there.

He has the potential to be Antonio Brown as his absolute ceiling. Brown is the guy you hope he becomes, not the expectation.

DAT isn't even a comp, much less reasonable to bring into the conversation.
Moore could outperform DAT in year 1. That's just silly.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He has the potential to be Antonio Brown as his absolute ceiling. Brown is the guy you hope he becomes, not the expectation.

DAT isn't even a comp, much less reasonable to bring into the conversation.
Moore could outperform DAT in year 1. That's just silly.

He’s just as likely to be DAT as he is to be Antonio Brown.

Again - if it’s remotely reasonable to bring a 12,000 yard WR into this discussion, it’s equally reasonable to bring a plain ol run of the mill draft bust with extremely similar athletic/physical qualities.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He’s just as likely to be DAT as he is to be Antonio Brown.

Again - if it’s remotely reasonable to bring a 12,000 yard WR into this discussion, it’s equally reasonable to bring a plain ol run of the mill draft bust with extremely similar athletic/physical qualities.

How so?

You're talking about a guy that was slower at 20 pounds lighter and was primarily a college RB that they'd flex out of the backfield like Goodson or Ealy and a KR.

They aren't even comparable reference points.

He's at least in the conversation based on skill and profile with guys like Curtis Samuel and Christian Kirk and such. And, thinking of Samuel, that's a guy maybe you could point an argument towards. Not DAT. He's easily going to be better than DAT. I'd be very much disappointed if all he becomes is Samuel though, and it would be very fair for you to argue he could be.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

How so?

You're talking about a guy that was slower at 20 pounds lighter and was primarily a college RB that they'd flex out of the backfield like Goodson or Ealy and a KR.

They aren't even comparable reference points.

He's at least in the conversation based on skill and profile with guys like Curtis Samuel and Christian Kirk and such. And, thinking of Samuel, that's a guy maybe you could point an argument towards. Not DAT. He's easily going to be better than DAT. I'd be very much disappointed if all he becomes is Samuel though, and it would be very fair for you to argue he could be.

Because Antonio Brown is a Hall of Fame player. What do you mean ‘how so’?

Skyy Moore is SUBSTANTIALLY more likely to be out of the league before his rookie contract is over than he is to make the Hall. By a TON.

My point isn’t that I think he’ll be DAT at all. And in fact have provided my projections for a very solid 6+ year career.

I’m citing DAT because people are citing Antonio goddamn Brown and both are opposite sides of the same highly unlikely coin.

And physically where do you get that Thomas was slower than Moore. No he wasn’t. At all. I mean Dexter McCluster was - you thinking about him? Thomas was faster, quicker and more agile than Moore is. Yes, he was lighter and and yes he was an unpolished gimmick player.

And it’s still more likely that Moore ends up a flash in the pan gimmick who plays out his rookie contract and vanishes than it is that he goes to the Hall.

It’s the absolutely insane hype people are hyping on this game (who will inevitably sing his praises at years end of he goes for 45 and 500) that I’m railing against here.

[New World Order]

He looks like Julian Edelman with better ball skills

[kccrow]

DAT ran a 4.50 at the Combine. Last I checked, that's slower than 4.41.

If you want to reference a hand-timed pro day of 4.37 on a traditional "fast" track at Oregon, I'll say I don't give a ****. The insanely accurate electronic time at the combine doesn't lie. People said they hand-timed Moore in the low 4.3s too. Horseshit on both.

What you're doing though is being unreasonable about potential. I mean, you're comparing the kid to a ****ing college RB. Find a better low-end comp than DAT that at least had similar collegiate production as a WR. It'd be a far more respectable rebuttal and one people can be honest about in their heads.

I do agree though, probably unlikely he's near either.

[royr17]

Originally Posted by kccrow

DAT ran a 4.50 at the Combine. Last I checked, that's slower than 4.41.

If you want to reference a hand-timed pro day of 4.37 on a traditional "fast" track at Oregon, I'll say I don't give a ****. The insanely accurate electronic time at the combine doesn't lie. People said they hand-timed Moore in the low 4.3s too. Horseshit on both.

What you're doing though is being unreasonable about potential. I mean, you're comparing the kid to a ****ing college RB. Find a better low-end comp than DAT that at least had similar collegiate production as a WR. It'd be a far more respectable rebuttal and one people can be honest about in their heads.

I do agree though, probably unlikely he's near either.

DAT also ran a 4.39 at his pro day.