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View Poll Results: Pick FOUR running backs for the all-decade team of the 2010s.
Jamaal Charles - 72 G, 1075 Runs, 5783 Rush Yds, 5.38 YPC, 36 Rush TDs, 7671 Scrim. Yds 145 98.64%
Kareem Hunt - 27 G, 453 Runs, 2151 Rush Yds, 4.75 YPC, 15 Rush TDs, 2984 Scrim. Yds 112 76.19%
Spencer Ware - 41 G, 354 Runs, 1621 Rush Yds, 4.58 YPC, 11 Rush TDs, 2319 Scrim. Yds 81 55.10%
Dexter McCluster - 58 G, 152 Runs, 662 Rush Yds, 4.36 YPC, 1 Rush TDs, 2162 Scrim. Yds 2 1.36%
Charcandrick West - 52 G, 268 Runs, 998 Rush Yds, 3.72 YPC, 7 Rush TDs, 1587 Scrim. Yds 8 5.44%
Thomas Jones - 32 G, 398 Runs, 1374 Rush Yds, 3.45 YPC, 6 Rush TDs, 1539 Scrim. Yds 1 0.68%
Damien Williams - 27 G, 161 Runs, 754 Rush Yds, 4.68 YPC, 9 Rush TDs, 1127 Scrim. Yds 124 84.35%
Knile Davis - 55 G, 245 Runs, 800 Rush Yds, 3.27 YPC, 11 Rush TDs, 1067 Scrim. Yds 4 2.72%
Jackie Battle - 31 G, 169 Runs, 647 Rush Yds, 3.83 YPC, 3 Rush TDs, 724 Scrim. Yds 1 0.68%
De'Anthony Thomas - 61 G, 30 Runs, 190 Rush Yds, 6.33 YPC, 2 Rush TDs, 699 Scrim. Yds 2 1.36%
LeSean McCoy - 13 G, 101 Runs, 465 Rush Yds, 4.6 YPC, 4 Rush TDs, 646 Scrim. Yds 2 1.36%
Anthony Sherman - 112 G, 24 Runs, 62 Rush Yds, 2.58 YPC, 1 Rush TDs, 498 Scrim. Yds 74 50.34%
Shaun Draughn - 17 G, 59 Runs, 233 Rush Yds, 3.95 YPC, 2 Rush TDs, 391 Scrim. Yds 1 0.68%
Darrel Williams - 18 G, 54 Runs, 185 Rush Yds, 3.43 YPC, 3 Rush TDs, 379 Scrim. Yds 2 1.36%
Peyton Hillis - 13 G, 85 Runs, 309 Rush Yds, 3.64 YPC, 1 Rush TDs, 371 Scrim. Yds 1 0.68%
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:08 AM   Topic Starter
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Chiefs All-Decade Team - Running Backs

With the end of the decade, it's time for us to select our all-decade team for the 2010s. Credit to Direckshun for the idea; I'm just implementing it.

Here are the rules:

1. I'll put up lists of position groups one at a time.

2. Each list will contain guys who had at least one notable stat line in their career. I'll generally put them in descending order of some key stat.

3. The stats will contain ONLY their body of work between 2010 and 2019 for the Chiefs. No pre-2010 stats and no stats for other teams.

4. The number of roster spots will be the same as the number of roster spots on the 2019 Super Bowl roster for the Chiefs.

5. You can use whatever criteria you want to select the team. It can be total stats for the decade, it can be dominance in a shorter period, it can be playmakers who didn't screw up badly, whatever. It's your call. Feel free to use any criteria not listed in your decision. For example, if you know that Terrance Copper was an amazing blocker, you can build that into your decision.

6. In a subsequent poll we will determine which players are the starters on the all-decade team. In the first round, you're just going to fill the 53-man roster.

Our next position group is running backs. FOUR running backs will make the all-decade team. So pick FOUR running backs. It's your call on whether you want to have a fullback on the team, because I'm lumping them all together.

Administrative note: I cut the list off to include only guys who gained 350 yards or more from scrimmage during the decade, in case you're wondering why Darwin Thompson, Cyrus Gray, etc., aren't listed.
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Crazy that either a fullback or Spencer Ware are a lock to make the all decade team.

I keep thinking how much fun this offense would be with a prime Jamaal Charles in the backfield.

Completely unstoppable is the answer.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:23 AM   #4
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Crazy that either a fullback or Spencer Ware are a lock to make the all decade team.

I keep thinking how much fun this offense would be with a prime Jamaal Charles in the backfield.

Completely unstoppable is the answer.
I'm assuming that one of these three won't make the team between Hunt, Ware, and Sherman, but I think it's possible that Hunt is the odd man out. He only played in 27 games and his departure was not in the spirit of the all-decade team. But there's no denying that he was incredibly productive in those 27 games, leading the league in rushing in his lone full season, so who knows?
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:36 AM   #5
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Jamaal. He’s the best Chief back ever. I’ll die on that hill.

Hunt begrudgingly because **** that fool.

Ware he was really good for a few years.

Damien. Super Bowl bitches.

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Crazy that either a fullback or Spencer Ware are a lock to make the all decade team.

I keep thinking how much fun this offense would be with a prime Jamaal Charles in the backfield.

Completely unstoppable is the answer.
It would be filthy.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:54 AM   #6
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Jamaal. He’s the best Chief back ever. I’ll die on that hill.

Hunt begrudgingly because **** that fool.

Ware he was really good for a few years.

Damien. Super Bowl bitches.



It would be filthy.

And apparently you were very impressed with Peyton Hillis.
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Old 02-14-2020, 02:25 PM   #7
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Jamaal. He’s the best Chief back ever. I’ll die on that hill.

Hunt begrudgingly because **** that fool.

Ware he was really good for a few years.

Damien. Super Bowl bitches.



It would be filthy.
Jamaal was very good, but best ever? Priest was awesome. So was Joe Delaney. So was Marcus Allen. So was Abner Haynes. Hard to say who was best. You can make a case for Damian Williams. He won a SB. These other guys did not.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:01 PM   #8
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And apparently you were very impressed with Peyton Hillis.
Must have fat fingered that one when I pushed go.

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Jamaal was very good, but best ever? Priest was awesome. So was Joe Delaney. So was Marcus Allen. So was Abner Haynes. Hard to say who was best. You can make a case for Damian Williams. He won a SB. These other guys did not.
Like I said this is a Hill I’m willing to die on. He picked up the tough yardage amazingly well, balance was as good as I’ve ever seen, speed was other worldly in his prime (reek exempted) and could get through a tiny crack.

Case in point, LJ outperformed your boy Priest. Then when Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards wrecked the line LJ was horribad and Charles clicked off 5 ypa. I objectively believe you put Charles on any of those teams he outperforms you’re guys.

He was wasted almost entirely by Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

I’m pretty much in the minority on him, but like I said it’s a Hill I’m willing to die on.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:03 PM   #9
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Must have fat fingered that one when I pushed go.



Like I said this is a Hill I’m willing to die on. He picked up the tough yardage amazingly well, balance was as good as I’ve ever seen, speed was other worldly in his prime (reek exempted) and could get through a tiny crack.

Case in point, LJ outperformed your boy Priest. Then when Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards wrecked the line LJ was horribad and Charles clicked off 5 ypa. I objectively believe you put Charles on any of those teams he outperforms you’re guys.

He was wasted almost entirely by Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

I’m pretty much in the minority on him, but like I said it’s a Hill I’m willing to die on.
I think Jamaal is the best Chiefs RB ever. Put him behind the OL that Priest had...2,000 yards easily. Jamaal would’ve gotten to the second level at will behind that line. Put T Rich in front of him too...holy shit.
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Like I said this is a Hill I’m willing to die on. He picked up the tough yardage amazingly well, balance was as good as I’ve ever seen, speed was other worldly in his prime (reek exempted) and could get through a tiny crack.

Case in point, LJ outperformed your boy Priest. Then when Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards wrecked the line LJ was horribad and Charles clicked off 5 ypa. I objectively believe you put Charles on any of those teams he outperforms you’re guys.

He was wasted almost entirely by Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

I’m pretty much in the minority on him, but like I said it’s a Hill I’m willing to die on.
I'll dive on the rampart next to you and nod in solidarity. We've had some great running backs, but Jamall is the best of them all.

I guess I should acknowledge that I never saw Abner Haynes play and he seems amazing. But I'll play the odds here and go with Jamaal.
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Must have fat fingered that one when I pushed go.



Like I said this is a Hill I’m willing to die on. He picked up the tough yardage amazingly well, balance was as good as I’ve ever seen, speed was other worldly in his prime (reek exempted) and could get through a tiny crack.

Case in point, LJ outperformed your boy Priest. Then when Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards wrecked the line LJ was horribad and Charles clicked off 5 ypa. I objectively believe you put Charles on any of those teams he outperforms you’re guys.

He was wasted almost entirely by Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

I’m pretty much in the minority on him, but like I said it’s a Hill I’m willing to die on.
That's all a good case. My old complaint with Charles was my same complaint with DT. He disappeared in the playoffs. Charles scored once against the Ravens at Arrowhead, our only score. He was knocked out of the Indy playoff game i believe twice. He just never seemed to be a factor when it mattered most. Same with DT. Never came up big in a playoff game. Whereas Damien Williams has shined in every game that mattered that he's played in.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:53 PM   #12
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Jamaal was very good, but best ever? Priest was awesome. So was Joe Delaney. So was Marcus Allen. So was Abner Haynes. Hard to say who was best. You can make a case for Damian Williams. He won a SB. These other guys did not.
I’m with Buehler, not even Delaney was as electric as JC... only 3-4 other guys boast that kinda ypc, it’s rarified air even among HOFers
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That's all a good case. My old complaint with Charles was my same complaint with DT. He disappeared in the playoffs. Charles scored once against the Ravens at Arrowhead, our only score. He was knocked out of the Indy playoff game i believe twice. He just never seemed to be a factor when it mattered most. Same with DT. Never came up big in a playoff game. Whereas Damien Williams has shined in every game that mattered that he's played in.
Rain man makes a great point below. That Indy thing he was in concussion protocol on like the second offensive snap or something stupid.

That Ravens game we were totally outmatched. Like I said, if you put that dude on this team, he makes Williams look silly. And I love me some Williams.

What that dude did on the field was different.

Another thing to consider is Williams had 120 rush/receiving attempts in the playoffs. 320 total offensive snaps. Jamaal Charles has 14 total rush/receiving attempts and they didn’t keep track of total snaps back then.

What would Charles’ performance look like with Williams’ volume?

Let’s look at the individual stats. In that Balt game he was 9/82 rushing (9.1 yards per attempt!). 1-2 passing for 15 yards (15 yards per attempt). Indy he had 3 rushes for 18 yards. All told he was putting up 8.3 yards per rush and 15 yards per catch. Williams through his notably good playoff performances was averaging 4.39 yards per rush and 8.59 yards per catch.

I think looking at playoff totals by themselves doesn’t give you the whole picture. In conjunction with Rain Mans team evaluation (which makes Jamaals averages all the more impressive) and my volume numbers it’s really hard to compare the two just on Playoff Performances.

Like I said it’s not a popular opinion but I just can’t get over the eye test with what Jamaal did on pure garbage teams as the only weapon.

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Yeah, but Charles was never on a playoff team that had a chance.

If you're a defensive coordinator, do you concentrate your efforts on Matt Cassel or Jamaal Charles? How about Patrick Mahomes II or Damien Williams?

Damien's great so that's no slight against him at all, but Charles was a championship caliber running back who played on teams that had no shot at a championship.
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Jamaal was very good, but best ever? Priest was awesome. So was Joe Delaney. So was Marcus Allen. So was Abner Haynes. Hard to say who was best. You can make a case for Damian Williams. He won a SB. These other guys did not.
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Jamaal. He’s the best Chief back ever. I’ll die on that hill.

Hunt begrudgingly because **** that fool.

Ware he was really good for a few years.

Damien. Super Bowl bitches.



It would be filthy.
This works for me as well
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