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Old 07-05-2020, 01:28 AM   #2
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Sorry man Frank is far more valuable than Chris and that was proven last season.
'Far more valuable' is a bit of a stretch. Clark brought a much needed attitude change to the D and he is better against the run than Jones but Jones is much more of a force to be reckoned with when it comes to pass rushing. Jones didn't have a ton of sacks this year but he is without a question our main pass rushing threat.

i'd say it's about even. Both great players with different strengths and weaknesses. They complement each other well too.

I think signing Jones to a huge deal isn't worth it for Chiefs since we have Reid/Mahomes and are already paying a ton to Frank Clark. But he deserves to get paid a lot by another team who needs a good pass rushing DT to help get their defense and team to the next level. He's a good player but if I'm Veach I'd let him go.
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Old 07-04-2020, 02:06 PM   #3
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I'm not sure that's necessarily true, Jones being more valuable than Clark. At least not at a time where Jones still struggles to play within the designed structure of the defense and freelances himself out of plays multiple times a game. Which is not to diminish how special a player he is in terms of pure ability, just that he can giveth and he can taketh away, so to speak, often from one play to the next.
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:39 AM   #4
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I would imagine Jones is more valuable to most teams just because finding interior guys who can get pressure like that aren't very common, and most GMs and coaches want that more than anything these days.
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Old 07-05-2020, 11:15 PM   #5
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Why do you care?

The main reason I bailed on this site was most of this board insisting he was a liability and the main problem with our defense.

That position didn't get less stupid. Y'all should be happy to trade this "terrible" player while people think hes good.
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Old 07-05-2020, 11:38 PM   #6
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Why do you care?

The main reason I bailed on this site was most of this board insisting he was a liability and the main problem with our defense.

That position didn't get less stupid. Y'all should be happy to trade this "terrible" player while people think hes good.
Out of all the stupidity that’s been shared on this board over the last decade, this stupidity seems like a rather run of the mill reason to bail.
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:26 PM   #7
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Well now there is still 9 days to focus solely on jones.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:02 PM   #8
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Well now there is still 9 days to focus solely on jones.
6 years 108 million? 45 mil guaranteed and plenty of incentives.

Plus, he gets to be in the playoffs every year.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:25 PM   #9
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Anyone else feel like this helps the case for CJ to sign?

I do.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:28 PM   #10
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Anyone else feel like this helps the case for CJ to sign?

I do.
It just depends on how reasonable Jones will be. It sounds like he wants $20.5+ which for a long term deal is a non starter IMO
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:05 PM   #11
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Anyone else feel like this helps the case for CJ to sign?

I do.
I mean I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this deal got done today.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:10 PM   #12
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I mean I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this deal got done today.
This. The stars are aligning.

The threats of a hold-out have me a bit concerned though. If this was the angle, why wouldn’t they tell Jones they were headed that way?

There has been nothing but silence from the Chiefs to Jones’ camp. That would be a lot of ground to cover in 9 days.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:51 PM   #13
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Spotrac has mahomes salary going up by 2 mil for this year, overthecap doesnt but if it does that leaves us with just 1.5 mil and all our picks still to sign so something else still has to happen to get them all signed. I say a jones deal.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:06 PM   #14
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:07 PM   #15
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
If we get the Clark that we got in the playoffs going forward, then I have absolutely no problem with that deal.

Remember he was a lot more injured than anybody knew for the first half of last season.
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