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Old 03-04-2024, 12:40 PM   #2
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two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it
You are not going from 32 into the top 5 for that.
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Old 03-04-2024, 12:50 PM   #3
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You are not going from 32 into the top 5 for that.
7th or 8th pick in the draft - look at the value chart and tell i'm wrong
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Old 03-04-2024, 12:53 PM   #4
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7th or 8th pick in the draft - look at the value chart and tell i'm wrong
Just because it adds up in numbers doesn't mean shit. What team in the top 10 is moving back down to 32 and getting low picks everywhere else? Especially for a LT prospect like Alt?
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two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:08 PM   #6
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two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it
I'm never giving up that much to move up for a Left Tackle...there's enough serviceable guys out there that can get the job done until you're in the position to draft one.

Now you want to talk about giving that up to move up to get an elite playmaker? Different conversation...
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:24 PM   #7
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I'm never giving up that much to move up for a Left Tackle....
Chiefs Kingdumb is just begging for a Mahomes injury
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:38 PM   #8
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Chiefs Kingdumb is just begging for a Mahomes injury
We won Super Bowls with Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown Jr., and Donovan Smith as our LTs....but yeah, let's mortgage the future because you're scared of something that literally can happen on any play by anyone being beat.

Brilliant.
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:47 PM   #9
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We won Super Bowls with Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown Jr., and Donovan Smith as our LTs....but yeah, let's mortgage the future because you're scared of something that literally can happen on any play by anyone being beat.

Brilliant.
You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:53 PM   #10
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You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....
a lot of the hits are on mahomes though, he holds the ball a long time sometimes.
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Old 03-04-2024, 02:11 PM   #11
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a lot of the hits are on mahomes though, he holds the ball a long time sometimes.
The 49ers had a dude get injured during the SB while running onto the field.

Mahomes took some big shots in the Baltimore game that looked more dangerous than the hit taken against Jacksonville in the playoffs last year.

He got hurt during a QB sneak of all things.

Trent Green took a cheap shot and was injured while Orlando Pace was his LT.

I'd love for us to have the best pass blockers around Mahomes to minimize big hits, but he could get injured doing literally anything on the field. Its a dangerous sport.
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You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....
It’s a 2 fold problem.

I honestly think the bigger problem was our WRs were so bad that Pat had to hold the ball more and that caused cracks in protection to become a bigger issue than they would be with better receivers.
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Old 03-04-2024, 03:07 PM   #13
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It’s a 2 fold problem.

I honestly think the bigger problem was our WRs were so bad that Pat had to hold the ball more and that caused cracks in protection to become a bigger issue than they would be with better receivers.
2021 was the intersection of elite receiver play and spotty LT play

Defenses can always force a QB to hold the ball.

We would benefit a lot more from Mahomes being able to hold it with impunity.

Particularly since he likes to hold it.
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We won Super Bowls with Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown Jr., and Donovan Smith as our LTs....but yeah, let's mortgage the future because you're scared of something that literally can happen on any play by anyone being beat.

Brilliant.
Heyyyyy remember that Superbowl (55) we lost because Eric Fisher couldn't play?
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Heyyyyy remember that Superbowl (55) we lost because Eric Fisher couldn't play?
The entire line was decimated, even if Fisher played we would've lost.
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