***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

He falls down at the slightest hint of contact, is loss of balance a symptom?

Has Dexter McCluster been tested yet?

[007]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Gov. Newsom SHOW YOUR WORK we need to check your math and crosscheck it with this article I read on Salon a month ago

Bet he forgot to carry the one.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think it's "good" if it's everywhere because millions of at-risk people being exposed will put a major strain on our already strained healthcare system.

And not for nothing, comparing the average 65-85 year old to 20-something year old kids that are serious freaks of nature, is a poor comp.

Ideally there’s just a lot of asymptomatic people with it and not showing symptoms

That would allow immunity to be built without a huge burden to health systems

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Here is what I don't understand, I know for a fact in Missouri you won't get tested unless you are not only showing symptoms but have been potentially exposed to another person who is a positive test. We had a discussion with the Missouri health department today because we have to keep our facility up and running.

So how are all these asymptomatic people getting tested?

You notice who these people getting tested are right?

[mr. tegu]

Citing day to day increases is pointless as a measure of anything right now. A week ago it was nothing but complaints about a lack of testing so we know it wasn’t being reported accurately. All these increases day to day are not people that just got it but didn’t have it the few days before. It’s important to keep in mind because if you use these daily increases your predictions of growth are going to be greatly skewed leading to people claiming 25 million people in one state will have it in eight weeks.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Is he seriously sick?

Is he in a hospital?

The media reporting on every case of a high profile athlete being diagnosed with COVID-19 as “breaking news” is just adding to the hysteria.

Virtually every athlete who has been diagnosed with the virus has had minor or no symptoms.

I'm sure the fact that they're athletes in peak physical condition has a lot to do with the severity, or lack thereof, of their symptoms.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ideally there’s just a lot of asymptomatic people with it and not showing symptoms

That would allow immunity to be built without a huge burden to health systems

Sounds like a crystal ball theory.

And one we shouldn’t test.

[Hammock Parties]

[lewdog]

Reached out to a local distillery today. Running dangerously low in sanitation products at our facility.

Secured 15 gallons of “sanitizer” for our rehab! FDA lifted regulations and asked these places to start making sanitizers. Best part....it’s free!

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

You notice who these people getting tested are right?

Yea they seem to be able to cherry pick some weird people to be "positive" for no known reason.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by mac459

No kidding they know more than us. I never said they were shutting things down for fun. I haven’t been able to keep up with this thread that well. Been busy lining up a funeral for a friend of mine who killed himself.


So I figured if you had numbers to go with what you said, I would like to see them. So I can start getting caught up with everyone else.


So get ****ed, for your common sense comment.

Sorry to hear of your loss mac. That has to suck even more with everything else going on.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Herd immunity.

Allow the vast majority of the population who will have minor or no symptoms to COVID-19 to build a communal immunity to the virus through exposure and in the meantime target the social distancing to just the high risk group.

Isn't that exactly what the UK did before deciding to take all of the extra precautions?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Sounds like a crystal ball theory.

And one we shouldn’t test.

Not really

There’s a basis to it. That’s essentially what we’re doing with all this quarantine and such stuff just at a much slower pace so things don’t bog down.

[Strongside]

The thing I worry about with regard to the notion that millions are walking around with this and are asymptomatic, is that we may actually build up a pretty good herd immunity, but that we'll prolong this societal halt longer than necessary because 3/4 of people will have had it but still be living under the assumption and fear that they haven't.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Just got back from Sam's Club and they are OUT of Diet Dr. Pepper.

Had to buy Coke Zero.

These are dark times.

You gotta stop drinking pop. That shit is terrible for you.