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Old 09-16-2019, 04:17 PM  
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Schefter: Jalen Ramsey has asked for a trade
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:51 PM   #541
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Elite coverage would change everything.
It would help BUT against good o-line teams with good QBs we would still get carved up. Still too much time for guys like Brady, Rogers, Rivers, etc....IMHO.

Tanoh and Ogbah need to really step it up quicker. Yes they each have a sack already but they still can get blocked pretty consistently one on one from what I have seen from good o-lines. it is still early though so maybe.

Spags had both good cover guys and great rushers in NY and how he beat Brady. The saving grace is that Bellichek learned he can't get into a shoot out with us unless Gronk comes back. With Edelman,Gordon,Brown and Gronk then yes they could keep up with us and they would have the edge because they have the better D.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:51 PM   #542
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I would do two 1s and a 4th or something...
No way unless there is a long term deal in place for him. Maybe a 1st and a 4th, but not two firsts.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:52 PM   #543
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Haven’t won a SB in 50 years.

Do not give a **** about the compensation on a deal that immediately makes them favorites.

Again, we can recoup most if not all of that comp.
I agree with this. When you’re in the position we’re in and the biggest competition just got a top 5 WR, you make a move like this even if the price is large.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:52 PM   #544
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:52 PM   #545
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How many of yall gonna sport Ramsey avatars if yall get him? He's got some pretty sick ones out there. The one where he cried is Top 3.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:52 PM   #546
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Haven’t won a SB in 50 years.

Do not give a **** about the compensation on a deal that immediately makes them favorites.

Again, we can recoup most if not all of that comp.
Its along season man. What if the defense plays like it did the last 3 quarters yesterday and gets Claiborne back? I'm all for getting Ramsey but I dont think were ****ed with the current team.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:53 PM   #547
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No way unless there is a long term deal in place for him. Maybe a 1st and a 4th, but not two firsts.
I mean I like your optimism but I think the bottom barrel trade would be a 1 and a 2...and that would be a steal.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:54 PM   #548
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I'm sure we'll be the team to get him. The only question is how badly will the compensation hurt.
Winning it all will take all the pain away.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:54 PM   #549
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Haven’t won a SB in 50 years.

Do not give a **** about the compensation on a deal that immediately makes them favorites.

Again, we can recoup most if not all of that comp.
I think the better odds are on a tag and trade of Jones to recoup if anything. If I’m giving up all that to have an elite corner, then I for damn sure want to keep him around for while.
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Its along season man. What if the defense plays like it did the last 3 quarters yesterday and gets Claiborne back? I'm all for getting Ramsey but I dont think were ****ed with the current team.
We aren’t but Ramsey is a young proven talent that would make us way better instantly. That first would be for a DB which is a far riskier move than taking aproven player imo. Even in consideration for the future, it’s possibly the better move depending on the price.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:55 PM   #551
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Is Jalen Ramsey the Chiefs’ Johnny Cueto?
Good point. Inconsistent most of the season then shined in the playoffs.

If he doesn't like playing zone though do we have another Peters locker room cancer?
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:56 PM   #552
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I see him going to Oakland. He wants to be there, Gruden knows he has Mahomes in his division for his entire contract and has to find a way to try and stop him. Also has extra picks.

Just makes too much sense
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:56 PM   #553
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There's just no question. Veach has to do this in a Superbowl year when your nemisis just picked up AB. Question is will the chiefs stop being pussies and go for it.

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Let’s just lay out a realistic, optimal scenario.

- Chiefs trade for Ramsey, giving up:

2020 1st
2020 2nd
2021 3rd

- Chiefs win Super Bowl

- Chiefs tag/extend Jones

- Chiefs trade Ramsey away for:

2020 1st
2021 3rd

I could see something like that happening. In which case you basically traded a 2nd rounder for a Lombardi.... or nothing if you fail.

Worth it, IMO.
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