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Old 02-06-2019, 01:26 PM   #2
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Stan Lee always had the good sense to bring up social issues with analogy and alegory. Marvel, currently, does not use the A&A approach. Marvel now spells everything out for the reader and throws social justice (Maoist) content into the comics in a very ham-fisted way. that's why the comics dont/wont sell
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Old 02-06-2019, 05:41 PM   #3
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did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.

either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over?
Yeah, I've made reference to that before. That, or I just went full Rick Sanchez on you.
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Old 02-09-2019, 04:45 PM   #4
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Stan Lee always had the good sense to bring up social issues with analogy and alegory. Marvel, currently, does not use the A&A approach. Marvel now spells everything out for the reader and throws social justice (Maoist) content into the comics in a very ham-fisted way. that's why the comics dont/wont sell
Exactly. It's all in the storytelling.

Show - don't tell.

I think Peter David was excellent at this in the 80's and 90's.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:20 PM   #5
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:50 PM   #6
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Of course comics have always had the socialist/progressive undertones. I didn't read them to find my political center.

I think people finally had enough when they decided to start just straight gender swapping the most popular characters. Why did Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, any of them have to become female at the Secret Wars reset? You want a female Iron Man, develop a new character and have one, but don't nuke a long time favorite in the name of femininity or some SJW agenda. Do some work and actually MAKE a new character that can compete with/against the old one. Anyone not named Logan trying to be Wolverine is nothing but a poser, no matter the sex, and that includes X-23 (and she's pretty awesome). Goes for all the old time, long time characters. IMHO, of course.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:24 AM   #7
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Of course comics have always had the socialist/progressive undertones. I didn't read them to find my political center.

I think people finally had enough when they decided to start just straight gender swapping the most popular characters. Why did Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, any of them have to become female at the Secret Wars reset? You want a female Iron Man, develop a new character and have one, but don't nuke a long time favorite in the name of femininity or some SJW agenda. Do some work and actually MAKE a new character that can compete with/against the old one. Anyone not named Logan trying to be Wolverine is nothing but a poser, no matter the sex, and that includes X-23 (and she's pretty awesome). Goes for all the old time, long time characters. IMHO, of course.
did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.

either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over?
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:53 AM   #8
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did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.

either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over?
Not an infinite number, . . . infinity is not a number. . . . Luckily, out of 14,000,605 timelines, this is the one timeline where you get an answer!!
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:06 AM   #9
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:21 AM   #10
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Ok, so who is Gyllenhalls character? Tell me about him.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:28 AM   #11
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Ok, so who is Gyllenhalls character? Tell me about him.
Mysterio. Not sure how much they are going to change from the comics.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:39 AM   #12
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Ok, so who is Gyllenhalls character? Tell me about him.
Mysterio. In the comics he was a goofy villain with no superpowers. Big dome over his head so you could never see his face. He was an illusionist. Used hallucinogenic gasses and holograms to create elaborate illusions. He would envelop himself in smoke to stay hidden and confuse his enemies. Seems weird that they would use him over so many other good villains, but whatever.

I'd bet a dollar that the giant monsters you see in the trailer are all just illusions. Mysterio is going to make himself a hero by defeating his own fake monsters, and then Spidey will get framed and have to prove the truth.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:02 AM   #13
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Mysterio. In the comics he was a goofy villain with no superpowers. Big dome over his head so you could never see his face. He was an illusionist. Used hallucinogenic gasses and holograms to create elaborate illusions. He would envelop himself in smoke to stay hidden and confuse his enemies. Seems weird that they would use him over so many other good villains, but whatever.

I'd bet a dollar that the giant monsters you see in the trailer are all just illusions. Mysterio is going to make himself a hero by defeating his own fake monsters, and then Spidey will get framed and have to prove the truth.
So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:13 AM   #14
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So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?
Quite possible.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:59 AM   #15
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So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?
I don't think the alternate timelines is a ruse, but yeah I'd venture a guess that he's beating his own monsters for some sort of plot reason. Mysterio was never a good guy in the comics, just a dorky villain with illusions. It looks like they give him magic powers in this one though, some off shoot of Dr. Strange's powers or something of the like. This newest trailer is pretty awesome though.
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