**** Official 2023-24 NHL Thread ****

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Way more Canadians are happy than sad over that result. The Leafs are basically the Yankees of Canada.

Minus all the winning , just the unbearable fanbase.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Minus all the winning , just the unbearable fanbase.

Yankees really haven't won much at all for a couple decades now.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Incredible. Doesn't get any better than game 7 OT

[scho63]

All my Canadian colleagues are flummoxed by Boston again.

I'll be seeing most of them in Vegas in a few days.

Leafs just can't get by Bruins.....

[Pablo]

Leafs fans suck dick.



Noted

[Bearcat]

Hopefully Canes/Rangers raises the bar for the East a bit.

And I guess I'd lean towards rooting against the Stars, because it means home ice for the Avalanche... and in general you'd take the 98 point team over the 113 point team.

[Tundra Scout]

4 minutes in and we already have 2 goals. Tied at 1

[Bearcat]

Agreed here.. and I wonder if it also contributes to the boring nature of some of these series. Kings/Oilers have played 3 years straight. The Panthers played both the Bruins and Leafs last season and were getting the winner of that series again.


https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2906012

A decade of NHL's awful playoff format ought to be enough

Scott Stinson

The Winnipeg Jets had an excellent regular season. They had 46 regulation wins, more than any team in the National Hockey League. Even with the statistical noise of loser points, the Jets finished with the second-best point total in the Western Conference, at a cool 110.

For this, they were granted a first-round matchup against the 109-point Colorado Avalanche, who carpet-bombed them into oblivion. (Technically a 4-1 series loss.)

The Carolina Hurricanes also had an excellent regular season. They racked up 111 points, had the most regulation wins in the Eastern Conference at 44, and perhaps most impressively, played before sold-out crowds all season in a place that's been a wasteland at various points in its NHL life. Great job, Canes.

For this, even after dusting off the New York Islanders in the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Hurricanes have been granted a second-round date with the New York Rangers, the only team in the East that finished above them in the regular season.

Welcome, again, to the NHL's incredibly frustrating divisional playoff format. It's one of the dumbest things the league continues to abide by - and this is the same NHL that for years insisted everything was going tickety-boo with the Arizona Coyotes.

Every spring, the divisional format spits out unfair pairings. Fairness is, admittedly, a fuzzy concept in professional sports, but in this case, it refers to the idea that the NHL regular season has meaning beyond simply being an 82-game dress rehearsal for the restart of the playoffs. Teams that perform well over that six-month slog should earn a decided edge in the initial playoff rounds. The NHL even acknowledges this to a point, giving the four division winners first-round matchups against the four wild-card teams. But instead of seeding the conferences one through eight, the second- and third-place teams in each division are paired.

Leaving aside the problematic instances when wild-card teams have more points than playoff teams in weaker divisions, the system really falls apart when one division is decidedly stronger than the other, which happens often. This year's Central has three teams with more points than any team in the Pacific other than the Canucks. The Metropolitan's two top teams, the Rangers and Hurricanes, had more points than any Atlantic team. This is how you end up with the Jets stuck against the Avalanche instead of a softer matchup against the Predators or Kings. The Oilers, six points back of Winnipeg in the West and with seven fewer regulation wins, end up paired with the 99-point Kings and brush them aside without much fuss.

This inequity would be easier to understand if there were some kind of benefit to it. The NHL thinks there is, with commissioner Gary Bettman insisting whenever he's asked about it that the league wants to preserve regional matchups in the early rounds to take advantage of classic rivalries. But that rarely happens. Three of the four divisions are geographically immense, meaning the system is just as likely to result in a pairing of teams that have nothing approaching a regional rivalry.

Edmonton has now played Los Angeles in three straight playoff seasons. They're about 30 hours apart by car, maybe a bit less if you really pin it. The Maple Leafs have been stuck trying to crawl out of the Atlantic Division, hockey's version of the deep and difficult American League East, which often matches them against a Florida-based team that has no rivalry with Toronto unless it involves tourists adding to the lines at Walt Disney World.

There's also the unintended consequence of the divisional playoff format, which is that it sucks the life out of what could be frenzied jockeying for postseason seeding as the regular season draws to a close. If one team jumps out to a big division lead, the next two can know by January that they're likely playoff opponents. Instead of a playoff picture full of uncertainty until the final days of the regular season, most of the pairings become evident weeks earlier.

It's not like any of this is new or unexpected. Other than the blip of the COVID season, this format has been around since 2013-14. Its problems have been evident for a decade. The solution is dead simple: Seed teams one through eight, then reseed after each round. The best regular-season teams get the easiest path. The teams that just sneak through as the 8-seeds have to play tougher opponents as they progress. Don't like it? Don't finish eighth.

Of course, that potential solution has been sitting there for a decade, too. And it's not like it's an alien concept: the NHL has used conference-wide seeding and reseeding before. Despite the flaws of the current system, it just refuses to go back to that format now.

It can be stubborn, this league. But one can hope. It did eventually come around on the Arizona thing, after all.

Scott Stinson is a contributing writer for theScore.

[Tundra Scout]

I’d much rather have 1vs8 2vs7 and so on. Hell I’d even be fine if they crossed over. 1vs 16 2vs15 ………

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Tundra Scout

I’d much rather have 1vs8 2vs7 and so on. Hell I’d even be fine if they crossed over. 1vs 16 2vs15 ………

I wouldn't go THAT far, but I agree that I preferred 1 vs 8. The same old playoff matchups do create rivalries, but it also gets old seeing similar matchups every year.

[Megatron96]

Nice flurry by the Canes. Now just have to do it one more time.

[Megatron96]

Uh oh.


Pretty sure that's a penalty

[Tundra Scout]

Rangers 4 Canes 3 final

[Megatron96]

Should be a great game here in a few minutes. Might have to order a pizza and wings for this one.